Quick Poll ![]() What about resistance tests? Have you been tested for HIV drug resistance? ![]() Gracia with another AIDS activist award winner, Deborah Peterson Small, Executive Director, Break the Chains. No, never. Never. I think none of my friends with HIV in Bolivia, have been tested for HIV drug resistance. I have read about this. I know it's very important. But what can we do? Sometimes we have been taking ... I remember, the first years, in 2000, we used to take AZT [Retrovir, zidovudine] in pediatric formulations, because nothing else was available. Sometimes we had to take what was available. Maybe it was not the perfect dose for our age and weight, but we had to do it. I can imagine, because of these interactions and treatments, due to the bureaucracy -- I can tell you most of us are, or will be, resistant to the medications, anytime, very soon. So what's your viral load now? Viral load, I had in November 2006. My CD4 [count was] 226 and my viral load was 6,000. So it was not that big. Thank God, this virus doesn't progress so fast with me, maybe because I decided to stop drinking alcohol forever when I saw my HIV test, and I never again had any alcohol. I also try to help myself with nutrition. Many people in Bolivia can't do that. We are seeing every day, more and more, that poor people are getting HIV, and they can't even get the basic meals in order to survive. They sometimes eat, but they don't eat nutritious food. I have many advantages, living with my family and having a job. I can buy food that is nutritious. Maybe my immune system was not as damaged as some of my friends'. I did investigate [getting a resistance test], since I started the treatment, precisely because the [kits] are not in Bolivia yet. They are being bought somewhere in the world; I don't know where. "We are going to rest as leaders in the Bolivian Network of People Living With HIV only when medications are available from the government and sustainable." When you first tested positive, do you remember what your CD4 count and viral load were? We didn't have those tests at that time. I was tested in 2000, and we didn't have those tests at that time. We've only had those tests since 2004. So I only can contrast my CD4 from 2004: I have been between 350 and 200, and I have been moving on those trends. I never got more than 350 CD4 cells. Did your viral load move at all? My viral load, thank God, never got more than 20,000 per ml. That's why I think maybe my CD4 does go down -- not because of the virus, precisely, but because I work so much, I travel so much, and traveling is often very tiresome. La Paz, the city where I live, is very high. When I go to New York, for example, I get used to sea level very easily. Then I come back to La Paz and I get sick with the altitude because we are 3,600 meters above sea level. I have many problems when I travel and come back to La Paz. I believe my CD4 cells went down because of that, and maybe if I rested more they could go up. I tend to do that [travel a lot and get tired] in the current situation, because, in this moment, I can't abandon the fight. We have the medications, but they are not a sustainable thing. We are going to rest as leaders in the Bolivian Network of People Living With HIV only when medications are available from the government and sustainable. Right now, treatment access is not very secure for us, because it's dependent on the cooperation of other countries or the Global Fund, etc. It's very risky. How did you find a doctor who knew anything about HIV? Well, thank God, this doctor I'm seeing has been working in Venezuela for some years. He had seen cases of HIV-positive people for at least five years in Venezuela. If you ask me now how many doctors in Bolivia know about HIV treatment or can manage HIV-positive people, I can tell you: There are five. In La Paz, there is only one. This is because HIV and AIDS are still not something that medical doctors are interested in. It's not profitable for them, I think, since the poor people are getting HIV. This doctor I see, he's a very nice person. He never charges for the time he has spent with us. Fortunately for me, he was working in the lab that I went to, to get tested for HIV. Those medical tests that I did in 2000; he was working right there, so I was referred to him automatically. I'm convinced, I can tell you: If this doctor were not to be in Bolivia, in La Paz, many people would have died five years ago. He's a volunteer doctor, a very committed person, a very special person that really, we know, is someone that -- without his support, many people would have died. We proposed him for an international award because he's really been doing this work since the beginning of 1990, when nobody wanted to take care of the HIV-positive person. Because he had previous experience in Venezuela, he knew. Now I think some universities are trying to provide more information to students on HIV, but it is very basic, still. We did our research among people living with HIV recently. What we found is that people with HIV sometimes get diarrhea, maybe after five years of being infected. They go to a health center, and they try to find a diagnosis. But the doctors in those centers -- they don't have any idea of HIV, so they just give them some antibiotics, something to relieve their symptoms of diarrhea, and they go home. But then they get sick again in three months, and then they go to another health center. So you can see the stories of people living with HIV getting ill, very, very sick, during a year or more, and visiting these health centers and asking for something: Please tell me what is happening to me? Why am I getting sick and sick again and again? And the doctors and nurses and can't tell them it's HIV. After the doctors have performed all the possible tests, only in that moment do they say, maybe it's HIV. But at that time the person is already very weak, and sometimes dies. So we are prompting now, the government, to promote VCT [voluntary HIV counseling and testing], because we are certainly, in Bolivia; we are diagnosing people with AIDS already -- not people living with HIV. I think also the culture in Bolivia influences so much, indeed, because people say if you don't feel sick, you don't have to go to the doctor. Only when you feel very, very sick, go to the doctor. Even when people feel a little bit sick, they go to the drugstore and they try to find some solution there, or they go to traditional healers. So every time we speak on TV, we say to the people, "Go and test yourself, even though you don't have symptoms and you don't feel ill." But people tend to deny HIV in Bolivia. "I think we have to support rape survivors. Because even if the men who rape you don't transmit HIV to you, the rape affects your mental health, and afterwards you start to put yourself at more risk." Now, another question that I kind of thought was important to ask: You said that you were a rape survivor, and that's how you got HIV. Am I right? I can't tell you exactly that that happened, because I didn't know the persons who raped me. They were two men. I was going back home, very late in the night. I was drunk. That's not an excuse for men to do that. But I did put myself at some risk. I don't know who these men were. Then I also had my partner. I don't want to pretend I am such an innocent person who got HIV being raped; I don't really know. But I can tell you; the situation of being raped really affected my mental health. After being raped, I became anorexic and bulimic ... without realizing that was a consequence of being raped. I started to drink alcohol and to smoke, and I started to even practice sex with my partner with no prevention, no measurements. I was in a self-destroying attitude, because I was so depressed for what happened. I never got any support after the rape. I never got psychological support. I never knew I could get post-exposure prophylaxis medications. So I was not very intelligent, mainly, in that moment. Because my sister suggested -- after I told her about the rape -- she suggested that I visit the health center and seek psychological support, and even to test for any STIs [sexually transmitted diseases]. But I was so traumatized with my body, I didn't want anybody to touch me or be around me. So I just pretended that it didn't happen and I just wanted to forget it happen. I think that was the main mistake. How old were you? I was ... I think I was 20. Yes, I was 20. That's why I speak now about rape, because I think we have to support rape survivors. Because even if the men who rape you don't transmit HIV to you, the rape affects your mental health, and afterwards you start to put yourself at more risk. And if you get HIV in the rape, because you stop loving yourself, you actually stop taking care of yourself. That's what happened to me, I guess. Maybe these men are HIV positive. I can't tell you. I don't know who they are. They didn't let me see them. But I'm sure they see me on TV sometimes. Maybe someday they will be courageous enough and present themselves to me. I would forgive them, because I already did that. My partner, the one with whom I was with for nine years, including the year that I was raped, he died in 2003. And he died in a very strange way. I begged him to test for HIV, but he was a coward. So I can't tell you. Maybe he also was HIV positive. I don't really know very well. But I can tell you that women who are rape survivors definitely are at more risk of HIV. So what is it that helps you survive all of this? Surviving rape and living with HIV and losing your partner? Is it religion that helps you? What keeps you going? Well, what keeps me going is the love of God's effect on me that I can see it's an inspiration on my family, and even my friends living with HIV. I decided at some point that I can't change my past. Of course, I did make mistakes. I put myself at risk by drinking so much. But in Bolivia, people drink so much. We don't have so much drug use, but we have a lot of problems with alcohol, and young people drink so much. The day I was raped, I was very drunk. That's why I maybe even couldn't escape. I also speak about this to young people. "When we started the Bolivian Network of People With HIV, some of our friends died, waiting for HIV medications to come. Some of them died, waiting for the stigma to change. I am able to see the changes in Bolivia now because of my work ..." I can't change those mistakes maybe, or maybe just not taking enough care, walking alone at 3:00 AM in the morning ... for them it was kind of an indication to do some harm to me. I can't control the future, either, because I don't know when I will die. But nobody knows. Because I'm HIV positive I may die tomorrow, or other persons who are not HIV positive may live longer than me. So the past and the future, I can't control. What I can control, and what I can put my efforts on, is today. So if I wake up today, I will live this day to the fullest, and I will give my best, and I will make my life useful to myself and to others and maybe be able to change the history in Bolivia. I am so glad, because yesterday was my birthday, and I am 30 now. I never thought I was going to be 30 with HIV. So tonight I will have a big dinner, with all my friends living with HIV, friends from school ... a lot of people. I want to thank God because I never thought I was going to reach this point. And also I want to thank God for letting me see the changes I wanted. When we started the Bolivian Network of People With HIV, some of our friends died, waiting for HIV medications to come. Some of them died, waiting for the stigma to change. I am able to see the changes in Bolivia now because of my work; the investments I did, I am able to see, they are bearing fruit now. Of course, we are not done. We have a lot to do yet. And I will be here to do that until the last moment I am able to do that. Then if I leave tomorrow, or I mean, if I die tomorrow or in ten years, I won't be sorry for my death, because I will know I have been living to the fullest, and I have used my days in the best way I could. So there is nothing to lose. If I die tomorrow, I did my job. If I die in ten years, I will have the same sensation. If I die, I know I will find God. I am a Christian, as you may guess, and being born in a Christian evangelical family, I believe I will meet God after dying. And He will give me a new body, a body that doesn't suffer with HIV, or any disease. That's why death also doesn't seem so scary for me. If I die tomorrow, I'm okay. And if I live tomorrow, I'm also okay. Also, I see so many needs in Bolivia, regarding HIV and AIDS. We did change so much in the six years that the Bolivian network exists, but we are not done. So there is so much to do; there is no time to be depressed. There is no time to be ill. We have a lot to do. Well, thank you, Gracia, for a great interview. You're very inspiring! Good luck with your activism!
Gracia Violeta Ross Quiroga can be reached via e-mail at graciavioleta@gmail.com. Got a question about women and HIV treatment? Ask The Body's experts! Talk to women about HIV at The Body's Community Center.
Comment by: Gilbert Chewe
(Durban South Africa)
Tue., Sep. 8, 2009 at 8:30 am EDT Gracia you are blessed and look forward and see that there is nothing impossible for you to have your own family. All is well. God bless you.
Comment by: B L
(london)
Fri., Aug. 28, 2009 at 8:30 am EDT Im a HIV positive Asian male with healthy outlook, would love to find someone who would love to have child together. If we are HIV positive, our child does not have to be HIV positive, but can have a more positive future and understanding. billylaulondon@yahoo.co.uk
Comment by: Damaris
(Bolivia)
Mon., Aug. 17, 2009 at 6:47 pm EDT Gracia is my sister, we love her so much, and I want to tell every body who sees this page, that God's love is above all, if you can't be sure of your family's love, your health in future years or anything else, be sure about this YOU ARE PRECIOUS TO GOD AND HE LOVES YOU, HE wants only your happiness and your salvation, trust him and when ever you feel is too mucho for you, let him do the hard job and carry your worries, he loves you no matter what, that's what makes my sister wake up every day and that's what gives us (her family) enogh strength to keep the hope and love to her. Your life is not worhtless if you let your self be hugged by GOD's arms and cry your pai and let him take care of you, we'l be praying for you where ever you are... feel our love to you too.
Comment by: Preciosa
(Mexico)
Fri., Feb. 27, 2009 at 7:21 pm EST En realidad estoy impresionada con tu testimonio, se lo que se vive cuando te diagnostican, yo no vivia con mi familia estaba viviendo en otra ciudad. En realidad la noticia fue peor que bomba yo tenia una pareja por 3 meses y nos separamos despues me entero que esta enfermo empece a visitarlo y empezamos a ir con medicos para que lo consultaran y asi fuimos como 6 meses a medicos diferentes yo me entere porque el se agravo y fallecio sin yo saber que el era portador 5 años antes. Cuando el fallece ese mismo dia su mama me comento que habia fallecido de sida, es como si el mundo se me hubiera venido encima. Creeme a sido algo dificil esta situacion porque no se como decirselo a mi familia de hecho todavia no lo hago solo lo saben pocas personas de mi familia solo 3 hermanas. Lo mas triste es que un dia le dije a mi pastor lo que me estaba sucediendo y el comentario que me dijo primero por causa del pecado. Bueno entiendo que fue cierto porque no estaba casada, pero con el tiempo me preguntaba como estaba y una ocasion me dio tristeza porque me dice no se lo digas a nadie porque la iglesia no esta preparada. Y escondiendo las cosas y sin hablar del tema será peor. En realidad es duro, pero ahora tengo paz en mi corazon porque he descubierto cosas maravillosas de la vida. Se que un día me voy atrever a decir toda la verdad. Muchas gracias por tu testimonio y que Dios siga usando tu vida como hasta ahora. Gracias por este espacio. Es la primera vez que lo escribo y creeme es como un proceso.. Mil gracias.
Comment by: B P O A
(Ghana)
Fri., Jan. 16, 2009 at 10:48 am EST Hey! I am happy to read about Gracia testimony, i know her, we have met several times at conferences but i never know her story. I wish we Ghanaians can also have not just a Pastor's daughter but a christian who could come out and tell the church and the whole christiandom about what it is like living with HIV/AIDS and it crosses everywhere even in the church. God bless you Gracia, i wish i have the kind of courage to do the same in my church. Never give up
Comment by: Christina Maietta
(San Gabriel, CA 91776)
Wed., Jan. 14, 2009 at 2:28 am EST my name is christina maietta, I was diagnosed in 1989 june. I found out three months later I was pregnant. I didn't know what to do. I don't believe in abortions, so I prayed to GOD what to do? To make a long story short she lived for 15 1/2 years and passed away in oct 2006 ! if anyone can relate to me contact me at cmaietta@yahoo.com
Comment by: ISHWARCHANDRA
(DELHI, INDIA)
Sat., Dec. 6, 2008 at 5:16 am EST WOW u have been so bold and i was so proud to say for your deeds and your activities. Keep it up Gracia!
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