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Interview

For Me And My Brother: Black Gay Activists From Two Generations Discuss HIV and Leading a Movement

Summer 2016

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Black gay men's lives cannot solely be dealt with around HIV.

-- Ron Simmons


Deondre Moore

Deondre Moore (Credit: Ken Robert Williams)

Ron Simmons

Ron Simmons (Credit: Todd Franson, Metro Weekly)

We're all familiar with the recent headlines: One in two black gay men is likely to become HIV-positive in his lifetime. Countless conferences and meetings have been convened to figure out how to better "target" this community to be tested for HIV and linked to care. Many testing campaigns implicitly tell black gay men to treat one another with suspicion, rather than as sources of support or strength. Often HIV prevention programs and support groups divide us up -- positive and negative, youth and elders.

But black gay men are more than just their HIV status. There is a rich history of black gay men working not only as service providers, but also as activists. And as many black young people, straight and LGBT, mobilize around the country to respond to racism in the criminal justice system, the time is now for black gay men across generations to dialogue about how HIV fits into a social justice agenda.

What lessons can we learn from black gay elders, drawn from the past 35 years of political and cultural work? What can black gay youth teach us about resistance that can be harnessed into a new movement to end the epidemic for black gay men?

I spoke with two activists living with HIV -- Ron Simmons, Ph.D., 66, president and CEO of Us Helping US: People into Living, Inc. (UHU), in Washington, D.C. and Deondre Moore, 21, Greater Than AIDS ambassador and student at Sam Houston State University in Huntsville, Texas -- to hear, from their perspectives, where activism fits into our work to change the course of the epidemic for black gay men's lives now.




Tell me how you became an activist.

Ron Simmons: I became an activist in college in 1969, when we had the student strike against Richard Nixon bombing Cambodia. That's when I really became something more than a regular college student just going to my classes. I started to go to meetings, organize things, become a spokesperson, things like that. Then I got involved in the gay movement on campus -- at the State University of New York in Albany.

Deondre Moore: Before finding out I was HIV-positive, I always looked at myself as a leader among my peers, and usually took the lead role in projects like student government organizations in high school. So after finding out my status, there was a feeling in me that led me to believe that I could use my voice to end this epidemic that, I always say, should have ended before I was born.

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I started sharing my story in church. After that, someone at church saw me that day and heard my testimony, and notified me about a campaign they'd heard about that Greater Than AIDS was putting on in Texas. I applied and was accepted. And I've used every platform since to make my voice heard to share what I've learned with my community.

Ron, you've said before that you didn't become involved in HIV until some years into the epidemic. Can you tell me what you were doing in the early days of the epidemic, and what brought you into HIV work?

RS: I was working with Sydney Brinkley doing Black Light -- the first black gay magazine in the country. I didn't get involved with HIV until I became positive in 1990, and then I joined Us Helping Us in 1991, and that's when I began to get active in HIV prevention and holistic health among gay men.

Deondre, what do you think are the most critical issues facing black gay men today?

DM: I think there aren't enough role models or mentors. And we still face acceptance issues in the larger black community. We're always hearing that "black lives matter," but we're not necessarily hearing that same level of support for black gay men, or black transwomen.

RS: I've heard the black women who are the leadership in Black Lives Matter speak specifically about black women, black transwomen, and all aspects of the black community mattering. But that's been hard for many people in the community to adopt. When you find yourself in total chaos, it takes a while to develop that kind of intersectional thought.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) just released new data showing black gay men have a 1 in 2 chance of acquiring HIV in their lifetime. What was your reaction when you first heard this?

RS: Frankly, I didn't react to it. Ten years ago in 2005, the CDC related that study that 46 percent of black gay men in five cities were HIV-positive. So this new information didn't faze me in a way, because I remember a death every seven to 10 days and people walking around with Kaposi sarcoma, when it was a real nightmare. I remember those days. And today we're down to one pill a day, and people may think these statistics are a nightmare, or hell. Well, I remember what hell was. If half of us are positive and can take one pill a day, that's better than half of us being positive and dying in the streets -- which may still happen if they take this health care away.

DM: I wasn't surprised as well. We've known that black gay men have always been at higher risk for HIV since the beginning.

We need to take a step back and analyze what we're doing and ask ourselves if it's making a difference. People have been fighting this fight for over 30 years, they've launched different initiatives, all the funding they've gotten; people have gone through these programs to promote safer sex. It's confusing as to why, 30 years later, our chances of getting HIV are even higher, even if we aren't dying. And something has to change to make these initiatives more effective.

RS: We do know the research shows that the high rate of HIV among black gay men is not because we're running around fucking like bunnies without condoms. Some of it is simply a question of odds. Because of racism and preference, black gay men tend only to have sex with other black gay men. If you're saying that half of us are infected, unless you use condoms 100 percent of the time (and no one does), the odds are against you.

It's not about we don't care about ourselves or we don't care about each other. What we're finding at Us Helping Us, and it's true in some of the new studies, is most of our clients [who became HIV-positive] were in love, in a relationship, and either the other person didn't know their status, or people thought they were in monogamous relationships and it turns out they were not.

RS: I agree with that. That sounds like my situation, because when I tested positive it wasn't that I didn't care about myself. Before my relationship I got tested, it was negative, and it turns out my partner lied and had known he was positive for five years.

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