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michaeljohnson32
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      #271571 - 04/08/13 09:50 AM

Hi, I was wondering if Propylene Glycol would kill the HIV virus. Also, I was wondering if Buteylene Glycol would inactivate the HIV virus. Thank you.

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Re: HIV new
      #271572 - 04/08/13 10:49 AM

While both MAY destroy the virus in a dish I wouldn't recommend using either as a means to that end. Both glycols are made from petro oil. Same stuff the gas in your car is made of. Neither have been approved for internal use. Plus even if you were able to ingest significant quantities without killing yourself you would never get all the virus that lurks inside.

Using it as a lubicant would be ineffective as well and may increase the chances of infection greatly due to the damage it may cause to the normal cells.

Since it is oil based it would also damage condoms. Propylene Glycol is most commonly found in antifreeze and is the ingredient that makes antifreeze deadly to ingest. Once inside the body it binds with enzymes in the liver and stays there. Causing liver failure and eventual death. The only treatment that is effective in treating Propylene Glycol poisoning is to give large doses of medical alcohol (vodka) that binds with the Propylene Glycol and is then flushed from your system. Not a pleasant experience at all, it is not like a few drinks. It's more like a night spent at a frat house as the geek being forced to drink a keg of beer all at once. You never have just the buzz.

Butylene glycol is found commonly in skin care products as a preservative. It helps keep creams filled with moisture. It has been linked to depression, vomiting, drowsiness,(in small doses) and coma and respiratory failure in large doses (the amount you would need to ingest to make any impact on HIV). Butylene is a dirivitive of butane same stuff you use as lighter fluid.

IN NO instance are either recommended for the use you ask about or for any use that involves taking them internally. Death will be the end result, PERIOD.

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Re: HIV new
      #271661 - 04/12/13 10:55 AM

Wow Kicker , why would anyone want t even conside taking that stuff . makes me think of those toy cars that you rev up on the floor and watch them take off for about 7 feet then die. I can see someone saying at their funeral , " He was able to zoom like a rocket before he froze up and ran out of gas" lol

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Re: HIV new
      #271662 - 04/12/13 11:40 AM

Desperation or a get rich scheme, possibly wanting to help but not having enough knowledge to do so. Your guess is as good as mine.

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michaeljohnson32
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Re: HIV new
      #271663 - 04/12/13 01:45 PM

Actually, I was wondering if HIV in blood or other bodily fluids outside of the body would be killed by Propylene Glycol or Butylene Glycol.

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Re: HIV new
      #271664 - 04/12/13 03:25 PM

Well you didn't say, and we get a lot of crazy ideas here. You wouldn't need either outside the body. The virus dies or is inactivated very quickly outside the body. All your doing outside the body by using either chemical is making more of a mess.

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Re: HIV new
      #271690 - 04/15/13 08:37 AM

Well if thats a get rich scheme then I got one that is less harmful.Go by a chicken from the supermarket , strap it to your back with a rope , then run around the block flapping your arms and crowing like a rooster. If for nothing else , you got something ready for dinner.

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