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REVIVO
      #132598 - 01/05/05 12:14 PM

Any of you knows whether the claims in www.natureproducts.net on the efficacy of Revivo against HIV are plausible?

I ordered a month's dose out of desperation when i was diagnosed back in July 2003 and took it (am treatment naive). My VL dropped from 20000 to 3000 and CD4 from 393 to 600 in six weeks! My doctor said it could have been a result of the end of the acute phase of infection. I also read that some charlatans mix HAART drugs with herbs. That scared the shit out of me, so I discontinued REVIVO. Furthermore, it seems as if it is not registered by the authorities and they rely on testimonies (not very reliable) But I still wonder whether there is a chance that the herbal concotion is are unadulterated and of some benefit... anybody who tried it or who knows something!!! Lets see if we can dig it........

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Re: REVIVO: DAMN TOO EXPENSIVE!! new
      #132600 - 01/05/05 12:26 PM

I dont know whether revivo is good or not, all I know is that I couldnt try it coz at 100USD per month, it compares with HAART in expense without the advantage of scientific proof on its efficacy or lack of it. Whatever the case, those guys are making lots of money! Another thing to worry about is that they do not give their physical and telephone address. Are they even registered in china or anywhere else??? Mhhhh!

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Re: REVIVO new
      #160185 - 09/18/05 11:05 AM

Has anyone used this herb or know of any other herb that is effective against low T - Cell counts?

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Re: REVIVO: DAMN TOO EXPENSIVE, But works. new
      #168151 - 12/29/05 06:08 PM

Yes..the price is a bit to high, however it works. I've been taking some other supplements(vitamins) which are even more expensive. Chinese medice has always been a target of doubts. Specially when we simply have to rely on testimonials. I had to try to get to my own conclusion. Each one might respond differently. If you go to their website you'll find the names of the 12 herbs used to make Revivo. You can either ask your doctor about side effects or search online. That's what I did. Regarding your comparing the prices to HAART, I'm afraid I have to disagree for the HAAT cost if way too high, over $ 1,000 if your are to pay. After a month of using Revivo, my CD4 cells jumped from 480 to 590 and VIrus Load droped from 140000 to 80000. Due to my CD4 cells, Presently I'm taking only 1/2 of the dosage, as they recommend on their website. That means the cost has be reduced by 50%. When the virus Load subsides to a level lower than 50000 e CD4 remains above 570 you can even reduce to 2x a week.

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Re: REVIVO new
      #168152 - 12/29/05 06:10 PM

Chinese medice has always been a target of doubts. Specially when we simply have to rely on testimonials. I had to try to get to my own conclusion. Each one might respond differently. If you go to their website you'll find the names of the 12 herbs used to make Revivo. You can either ask your doctor about side effects or search online. That's what I did. After a month of using Revivo, my CD4 cells jumped from 480 to 590 and VIrus Load droped from 140000 to 80000. Due to my CD4 cells, Presently I'm taking only 1/2 of the dosage, as they recommend on their website. That means the cost has be reduced by 50%. When the virus Load subsides to a level lower than 50000 e CD4 remains above 570 you can even reduce to 2x a week. That's good because the proce is around $100 + shipping from China.

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Re: REVIVO new
      #168153 - 12/29/05 06:15 PM

Forgot to mention that anyone mixing the tea with HAART would force the proces to a extremelly high level. Therefore I really doubt about that. Another factor about Revivo that I'm sure that't idea doesn't apply is that I didn't have any side effect nor people I got in touch with.

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Re: REVIVO: DAMN TOO EXPENSIVE, But works. new
      #200492 - 07/18/06 01:54 PM

ARE YOU GUYS STILL USING REVIVO AND WHAT IS THE PROGRESS SO FAR CAUSE I'M CONSIDERING STARTING IT

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Re: REVIVO FAKE? REAL? new
      #208333 - 09/24/06 02:51 PM

if this works then why is only one guy in the entire US saying that it works...and giving his name Everyone else is anonymous....unverifiable results of the graphs stating the drastic drop in viral load and a return of t cells above 500...I have been hiv + for 16 years now and am HAART naive and have reduced my viral load by 20000 every 2 months buy using vitamins and supplements that I spent 9 months researching. Once my viral load started nearing the "10,000" mark my T-cells did see increases. I then tried the alternatives my research turned up on chronic Hep-B as I have also been co-infected with that for 16 years. I have lead an extremely healthy 16 years but without vitamin and supplement therapy which cost me about $300 to $400 a month. But when you poor like I was for a few years... the viral load started going back up and t cells back down. I now have money and am back on the vitamin/supplement regimine. I did reduce my all time high vl of 250,000 to 14,000 with NO HAART. my t-cells had been down in the double digits for several years as I was working the viral load down bit by bit. When I ran out of money my vl went back up to 80,000 and my T-cells fell back to the low level it was before. Its been 2 months since I have been back on my full vitamin and supplement regimine and was looking for the lastest info and this Revivo came up pretty quick. the FDA has a warning about it. But everything posted about the vitamin/supplement/DIET=alkaline forming has been what I have implemented and my hiv specialist thought for SURE I had taken the cocktail he perscribed...but I actually got the vitamin regimine right the 3 try and my numbers resembled the graphs of the viral loads in ONLY 6 weeks. But my t-cells did not climb very fast but did go up a noticable amount and if I could have continued I am sure my t-cells would be in the 200-300 range right now. I have been tracking and graphing my t cells and viral load since the beginning of when the were invented. I believe hiv is not hard to knock down. I have proved it to myself 2 times. but have to do it a 3rd from the bottom of the barrel. after I finally got my regimine right for knocking done my hiv viral load I went after my hep-B viral load and made all my numbers worse. removed the added hep-b (total of 12) some chinese and hiv viral load started back down. why after so long is there only 42 people that have had thier progress charted and of course its un verifiable being that this place is CHINA. Horrible AIDS crisis there...why isnt this making headline news ? why are they not shouting about thier fantastic results ? I know I have been trying to shout about my fantastic number turn around with regard to hiv with only diet and nutritional supplements, and vitamins.. most being the ones sold out of the former DAAIR..now newyorkbuyersclub.org...

Will reply back here when I get my next test results...these being the first 2 months back on just vitamin therapy/supplement and alkaline forming diet. The proof should be in the pudding. I will not stay anonymous if my results are as good as they have been in the past how ever short lived the results lasted due to $$ problems. Guess Revivo is not going to get ordered by me until I can actually speak or confirm with someone.. I will show you mine if you show me yours. I live in Tampa FL Prove 1 Revivo case to me. Prove to me that that "Beijing HIV Hospital." actually exists and that those trials happened there. My instinct tells me this is not legit...

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johnyb
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Re: REVIVO new
      #212785 - 10/26/06 04:11 AM

are you saying that revivohelped you or not if your cd4 count rises isnt that what we want to increase

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Re t cells new
      #212787 - 10/26/06 04:20 AM

a thing called eleuthero takeni time a day 10mls or 2 teaspoons thats all i know might help

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Re: REVIVO new
      #212792 - 10/26/06 04:31 AM

so your saying it does work ,why not go all out and get rid of the virus and be done with it ,i read that green tea extract is another thing that is supposed to kill hiv look it up and read about it there is something in the tea that coats the cells and stops the virus fron sticking to them andtherefore can not multiply

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Re: REVIVO FAKE? REAL? new
      #213494 - 10/31/06 12:37 AM

I have only recenlty been diagnosed HIV+ (this week!!!!). I am so scared about the drugs used and the side effects. You mentioned you were using vitamin/suppliment/diet. Is this without HIV drugs and if so do can you give me your regime so I could try it. Sorry to ask such a thing.

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Re: REVIVO new
      #214867 - 11/18/06 09:09 AM

Hi boys! I'm a new entry and want to say first Hello to everybody. My job is formulate diet supplements and I myself use it....
I finded your thread looking on internet for REVIVO. I have just ordered it. Uhm it's very expensive but I belive there is a true basis on this herbs formula. I searched on NLM about these herbs and hiv and what I finded is very interesting. The formula of Revivo is published on their website and put together 12 different herbs. All more or less have some effect on hiv.
Here what I discovered: (I copied for you bibliografy from NLM)
for istance: Arctium lappa, Prunella vulgaris, Andrographis paniculata are three herbs of Revivo:

Virology. 1992 Mar;187(1):56-62. Related Articles, Links

Mechanism of inhibition of HIV-1 infection in vitro by purified extract of Prunella vulgaris.
Yao XJ, Wainberg MA, Parniak MA.
Lady Davis Institute for Medical Research, Sir Mortimer B. Davis-Jewish General Hospital, Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Crude extracts of four Chinese herbs, Arctium lappa, Astragalus membranaceus, Andrographis paniculata, and Prunella vulgaris, were assessed in several tissue culture lines for anti-HIV activity and for cytotoxicity. One extract, obtained from P. vulgaris, was able to significantly inhibit HIV-1 replication with relatively low cytotoxicity. The active factor was purified using sequential precipitations with ethanol and n-butanol, followed by reverse-phase and gel permeation high-performance liquid chromatographic separations. The active component was anionic with a molecular weight of approximately 10 kDa. The purified extract inhibited HIV-1 replication in the lymphoid cell line MT-4, in the monocytoid cell line U937, and in peripheral blood mononuclear cells at effective concentrations of 6, 30, and 12.5 micrograms/ml, respectively. Pretreatment of uninfected cells with the extract prior to viral exposure did not prevent HIV-1 infection. By contrast, preincubation of HIV-1 with the purified extract dramatically decreased infectiousness. The purified extract was also able to block cell-to-cell transmission of HIV-1, prevented syncytium formation, and interfered with the ability of both HIV-1 and purified gp120 to bind to CD4. PCR analysis confirmed the absence of HIV-1 proviral DNA in cells exposed to virus in the presence of the extract. These results suggest that the purified extract antagonizes HIV-1 infection of susceptible cells by preventing viral attachment to the CD4 receptor.
PMID: 1371029 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

AND about Lithospermum erythrorhizon (root) and Prunella vulgaris (spike) showed the strongest anti-HIV-1 activities.: Lithospermun erhitrohrizon e Prunella are herbs of revivo formula:

Yakugaku Zasshi. 1993 Nov;113(11):818-24. Related Articles, Links
[Screening test of crude drug extract on anti-HIV activity]

[Article in Japanese]

Yamasaki K, Otake T, Mori H, Morimoto M, Ueba N, Kurokawa Y, Shiota K, Yuge T.

Osaka Prefectural Institute of Public Health, Japan.

The anti-HIV-1 effects of 204 crude drugs of common use in Japan were evaluated in vitro. As a result, 45 samples inhibited HIV-1-induced cytopathogenicity in MT-4 cells. In particular, the hot water extracts of Lithospermum erythrorhizon (root) and Prunella vulgaris (spike) showed the strongest anti-HIV-1 activities. Their IC100 values were both 16 micrograms/ml. In general, the hot water extracts of the crude drug suppressed the replication of HIV-1 growth more strongly than the cold water extracts.

PMID: 8277430 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I belive this formula is not only fresh water..... I hope will work ....I let you know!

I suggest you also to try Andrographis paniculata to enhance CD4 count: you can gain 100 CD4 in two month: here the Trial:
Phytother Res. 2000 Aug;14(5):333-8. Links
A phase I trial of andrographolide in HIV positive patients and normal volunteers.Calabrese C, Berman SH, Babish JG, Ma X, Shinto L, Dorr M, Wells K, Wenner CA, Standish LJ.
Bastyr University Research Institute, Bastyr University, Washington 98028, USA. carlo@bastyr.edu

A phase I dose-escalating clinical trial of andrographolide from Andrographis paniculata was conducted in 13 HIV positive patients and five HIV uninfected, healthy volunteers. The objectives were primarily to assess safety and tolerability and secondarily to assess effects on plasma virion HIV-1 RNA levels and CD4(+) lymphocyte levels. No subjects used antiretroviral medications during the trial. Those with liver or renal abnormalities were excluded. The planned regimen was 5 mg/kg bodyweight for 3 weeks, escalating to 10 mg/kg bodyweight for 3 weeks, and to 20 mg/kg bodyweight for a final 3 weeks. The trial was interrupted at 6 weeks due to adverse events including an anaphylactic reaction in one patient. All adverse events had resolved by the end of observation. A significant rise in the mean CD4(+) lymphocyte level of HIV subjects occurred after administration of 10 mg/kg andrographolide (from a baseline of 405 cells/mm(3) to 501 cells/mm(3); p = 0.002). There were no statistically significant changes in mean plasma HIV-1 RNA levels throughout the trial. Andrographolide may inhibit HIV-induced cell cycle dysregulation, leading to a rise in CD4(+) lymphocyte levels in HIV-1 infected individuals. Copyright 2000 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

PMID: 10925397 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
I think I'll try also Andrographis....Sometimes only HAART is not enough to rebuild the immune system, perhaps Herbs YES I hope.
Good luck!







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