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pozargie
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Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice
      #231304 - 09/20/07 10:45 PM

Hi everyone....
It is difficult to type for the first time but I want to let you know about me. I am a young and healthy man 28 YO never been sick before I live in the South of Argentina here in South America. I work as a teacher and I LOVE life. I am dating a wonderful guy, he is being very supportive but he is also scared. On August the 30th I received terrible news I was HIV POSITIVE... I probably get infected less than a year ago, couse I have a negative ELISA from December 2006.
Today I received the confirmation test WB positive.
Now my whole world seemed to colapse. I cried my eyes out thinking about death and suffering.... However I try to keep a possitive attitude but anxiety is killing me.. I waited 3 weeks for the Western Blot result.
Reading the site here I starting taking a few steps... although IT IS REALLY HARD dealing with all this HIV issue.
I found an HIV doctor... and looked for an HIV organization but there isn't any in my area anyway I haven't given up... I found a therapist although I have to pay high prices for medical medical support I dont care. I want to live!!!
Things work very slow in this part of the world... to ge to my CD4 and virus load count I have to wait 2 weeks more!!! This waiting thing is killing me!!!
Should I ask my doctor for other tests also?? I have already done Hepattitis B / C , toxoplasmossis anti HBs Hbs arg all negative
Latetly I started to notice a rash itching my whole body, I blamed my cat for that but reading some of the symthonps I also have a long time sore through, now I know that it is a cause of the virus. I don't know... so many things are new to me now. I feel lost! There are so many things I have to deal with. My patner don't want to get tested. He has a NEGATIVE elisa from Deember 2006 too but he needs to get a new one. How can I convince him to get tested???
I also want to know what CD' 8 are? Shall I ask my doctor for any vaccines?? Your advice will be appreciated.

PS
Survivor, Florida69, Oldwoman, Vokz reading your answers and posts 've given me hope. Thanks a lot guys!!!



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Survivor
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231307 - 09/20/07 11:27 PM

Argie, I am so sorry you have to deal with this, but deal you will.. Welcome to TheBody. Welcome to the support you need. Welcome to the answers, the love, you need... Please feel some assurance, that, in time, you can and will go back to "LOVING LIFE." For now, consider this a place of support, so, one item down on your laundry list of "to-do's".

I know your list seems daunting right now. But you can tackle these things one by one. You have done a great job finding an HIV doctor in your neck of the woods and your testing is very adaquate for this stage of discovery. Until we see your lab values which include your cd4 count, your viral load and you cd4/cd8 percentage, there is no reason to go much further. Unfortunately we even here in the states have to play two week waiting games in some cases to get our labs back. So do not feel bad. A good lesson in patience. Your doing everything you can, so put hiv away for awhile and do other things in the meantime.

I do feel strongly about your partner getting tested. For his own peace of mind and yours.

Your infection time frame is showing promise that this is a very earily infection and your next few set of labs will confirm that. Which could/can mean that having to control the virus with meds may/might be off in the distant future.

As for Vac's?? In the states we usually receive a flu jab'd yearly and a Pneumo-vac for pneumonia which is good for 5-10 years...

Ok enough from me.. I am sure everyone else will chime in on the rest of your to do's.. Just remember, be kind to yourself. Your doing it right. Your making so much progress in such a short time. Give your partner a hug and tell him you both are going to be around a good long time.. Keep teaching them kids and loving life... Keep reading and learning Mr. Teacher about hiv. Knowledge is power, but of course, you already know that... Sorry about my grammer, my spelling etc. I suck at that and never did get very good grades... :)

Love,

Eric

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Nathan
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231311 - 09/21/07 01:09 AM

I have to say that I am really impressed with how proactive you're being... especially given your location.
I don't have any advice, as I've just entered this world of living with HIV as well... but you are on the right track.
Everyone here has been so supportive and has been a life saver. Keep your positive outlook, and keep asking questions...I have actually written some of yours down to ask my doctor! Thanks for that.
Lots of love from all...
Me.

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At the end of the day, we are measured by our actions, not our intentions.

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vokz
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231319 - 09/21/07 07:44 AM

pozargie,

The following list of HIV / AIDS services and organisations in Argentina may be of use: http://aidsmap.com/cms1038779.asp (just select Argentina and hit 'search').

.. most of them are in Buenos Aires (my favourite city in the whole world, which I know is entirely the wrong end of the country for you), but they may still be of use in finding out what resources may be available to you.

The issue of persuading your partner to be tested is one I can relate very well to .. and I am afraid you just have to be persistent - but gentle - and accept the fact that it is his choice and that it may take a while for him to come around to understanding that it is ultimately for his own good.

Given how recent your exposure is, it is unlikely that you will need any vaccinations at this stage; but your blood work results will confirm that one way or another.

CD8 (cytotoxic T / killer T) cells, like CD4 cells, are white blood cells.

Unlike CD4 cells (which are the scouts that co-ordinate the immune response and identify which infected cells the immune system needs to mount a response against), CD8 cells are the trained assassins that go where the they are told to go to destroy virus-infected and tumour cells.

The relative balance of CD4 cells to CD8 cells is a good indicator of the health of your immune system. In a healthy person the cells are roughly balanced; but as the HIV infection progresses you have less and less CD4 cells - so although the killing mechanism (CD8 cells) of your immune system is still relatively intact, you just don't have enough of the scouts (CD4 cells) to coordinate your immune response and tell the CD8 cells where to go and what to do.

CD4 percentages tell us what proportion of our white blood cells are CD4 cells (in healthy people that is around 40%). The more advanced your HIV infection becomes, the ratio of your CD8s rise in relation to the falling levels of your CD4s.

hmmmm .. not sure that makes sense, so let me know if it doesn't and I will try to find another way to explain CD8s for you.

There are around 25 different tests that your blood is likely to be subjected to over time (most of which you really do not need to understand right now), so it is probably best that you ask your doctor exactly what tests he has done and then let us help you identify any other tests that could be appropriate for you at this stage (although if your doctor is an HIV specialist I am sure he will have done all the appropriate tests already .. or will be planning to).

I am sure you feel stressed as hell, but you are actually sounding remarkably together right now. Keep it up.

Mark

PS: If you haven't already done so, you may want to think about protection against Hep A & B

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oldwoman
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231322 - 09/21/07 09:39 AM

Thank you for your kind words.
I remember having a rash all over right before I was diagnosed,the itching was driving me crazy.And nothing seemed to help.It took a long time before my ex- boyfriend would get tested,I told him as soon as I found out but he was afraid to get tested.Happily he is negative.Don't want to scare you,our break up had nothing to do with HIV.
It takes a while to get over that"I'm gonna die!!"thought process but gradually you will find yourself realizing that you will be fine.You are taking steps in the right direction,learn all you can about HIV,remember to check when the info came out,Knowledge about HIV and treatment change almost daily at times,in the last year three new drugs have come out and more are being tested for release soon.Knowledge will help calm the anxiety,there's nothing I've found that works for the impatience when I'm waiting for test results though.
If you can't find a support group in your area maybe you can talk to your Dr about starting one.
The advice you got from everybody else is great try to relax and we will work with you.remember you will get through this.
Take care of yourself
Terry

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vokz
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231325 - 09/21/07 10:02 AM

Terry makes a VERY important point that can maybe help your partner.

It is by no means a foregone conclusion that you partner is positive. Like Terry’s boyfriend, my partner was still negative after several years of high-risk exposure as the mostly receptive partner.


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Florida69
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231327 - 09/21/07 10:11 AM

I belong to a couple on on line support groups and for some that is a great source. I have realized recently, however that it is not for everyone. Here is a link on how to find an ASO in your area, I stole from another web site, but I am confident that the author does not mind. http://www.myhivlife.com/

Take care, D

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pozargie
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231355 - 09/21/07 07:34 PM

Thanks Terry for the advice and it is true... knowledge is POWER!!!

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pozargie
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231356 - 09/21/07 07:37 PM

Thaks for sharing this priceless information, I will keep you informed on how things are going between me and my patner

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pozargie
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231358 - 09/21/07 07:52 PM

[quote]pozargie,

The following list of HIV / AIDS services and organisations in Argentina may be of use: http://aidsmap.com/cms1038779.asp (just select Argentina and hit 'search').

Thanks Mark for this info... at least I will call them. Actually I rang to "Fundacion Huesped" and they promissed to send me some info via mail.

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Unlike CD4 cells (which are the scouts that co-ordinate the immune response and identify which infected cells the immune system needs to mount a response against), CD8 cells are the trained assassins that go where the they are told to go to destroy virus-infected and tumour cells. [/quote]

Well I think I understood... the higher my cd4 are... the better... and regarding cd8 they appear to fight against infected cells. Am i right??



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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231359 - 09/21/07 08:00 PM

Tanks Nahan...
I am very glad that I found this space and it is true everyone is so supportive here that give me strength to keep on going.

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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231360 - 09/21/07 08:33 PM

[quote]
"IAs for Vac's?? In the states we usually receive a flu jab'd yearly and a Pneumo-vac for pneumonia which is good for 5-10 years..."

Yeahh I will take the flu and I will ask the doctor for the pneumonia once the winter begins (April 2008 more less...) couse Spring and summer are begining now here in the south

" Keep teaching them kids and loving life..."

You know after the initial diagnosis I felt very weak standing in from of my 4th grade class... thinking "I won't survive to see them grow"
Three weeks later I feel so much confident that I will be teaching my student's children... I don't know just something that came across my mind...


" Keep reading and learning Mr. Teacher about hiv. Knowledge is power, but of course, you already know that... "

Yeahhh VERY TRUE!!!! and you called me as my friends do TEACHER... wuuuuuooouuu... impressive!!!


"Sorry about my grammer, my spelling etc. I suck at that and never did get very good grades... :) "

L.o.L your grammar and spelling are ok, you passed the test !!
Thanks a lot Eric

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vokz
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Re: Recently Diagnosed needs help and advice new
      #231370 - 09/22/07 01:35 AM

Spot on, argie .. with the addition that CD8 cells are useless if we don't also have the matching cd4 cells ;)

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