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Can I catch HIV infection this way?
      #26751 - 01/09/02 03:25 PM

I am only 19 and I don't quite understand why I have to deal with this.
Perhaps some will laugh at me for my ignorance and deem this post as a hoax, but I really am frightened over this issue and am losing sleep over this. Please, someone try to help me please, please don't think of thsi as a hoax, it is a truly genuin fear of mine. Anyone, please give me some advise!
What happened was this. It happened over 10 months ago in a public restroom.
It was pretty crowded in there and U had to wait my turn to use a stall. So there was definitely someone before me using the stall. It finally came to my turn to use the stall. I had just finished my business and was about to use the toilet paper to clean up. For some reason, and I'm really regretting it now, I accidently swiped the toilet paper against the toilet seat before I absent-mindedly continued to use the toilet paper. Oh why didn't I had the presence of mind to discard it? I can't understand.
Now I have to live with the thought that I may have exposed myself to HIV infection. I mean, the toilet paper which came into contact with the seat actually also came into contact with my genitalia!
Upon realisi ng what I did, I immediately stood up from the seat and started to inspect the seat. To my horror, I saw some stains on the seat! It was not imaginary, there was indeed something on the seat. The lighting was not good so I can't be sure what it was. Now under normal circumstances I probably would not worry, but I keep thinking about how there was an occupant just before me in that stall, what if she had left some infected fluid on the seat? Wouldn't I have come into contact with those fluid then, if they had been there. I don't recall ssing blood, so that may be a source of comfort. But what if she had dripped some blood accidently( sometime this happens to me too, when I am having my period) onto the seat but wiped it away with tissue paper, leaving residue of HIV behind. Can i still get infected this way.
I know I have no reason to imply that the previous occupant is HIV positive, but one can never be too sure. Furthermore, the time lap between her exit and my entrance of thes tall was barley seconds long, the virus if it was present would not have enough time to die and not pose a risk.
I have been living with all sorts of fear and doubts for the past ten months. I am afraid to test in case I am really positive because of this incident. I am quite certain that before this incident I am negative as I never had practiced any activity that would put me at risk. I am so worrried and obsessed by this one incident that sometimes I even treat myself as infected already. I am always so worried once every month for fear that I may put my dear ones at risk as I am sometimes rather careless about hygiene. I fear that my menses can put my family risk if they acciently came into contact with the blood. I wash the toilet like crazy and do all sorts of things in hope that I will minimise the chances of them catching anything from me, buy sometimes accidents just occur and I will suffer sleepless nights. What shall I do?



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Re: Can I catch HIV infection this way? new
      #26752 - 01/09/02 03:31 PM

The quick answer is NO, This is not considered a risk for contracting HIV.

See a more lengthy answer below and always feel free to ask more questions.

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Requirements For Transmission To Occur
Three conditions must be met for HIV transmission to occur:

HIV must be present;
Infection can only happen if one of the persons involved is infected with HIV. Some people assume that certain behaviors (such as anal sex) cause AIDS, even if HIV is not present. This is not true.

In sufficient quantity;
The concentration of HIV determines whether infection may happen. In blood, for example, the virus is very concentrated. A small amount of blood is enough to infect someone. A much larger amount of other fluids would be needed for HIV transmission.

And it must get into the bloodstream.
It is not enough to be in contact with an infected fluid to become infected. Healthy, unbroken skin does not allow HIV to get into the body; it is an excellent barrier to HIV infection. HIV can only enter through an open cut or sore, or through contact with the mucous membranes in the anus and rectum, the genitals, the mouth, and the eyes




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Re: Can I catch HIV infection this way? new
      #26806 - 01/10/02 10:26 AM

You can only get infected with HIV if semen, vaginal fluids or blood get into your blood stream! That's why sexual intercourse is dangerous, the movement of the penis against the vagina can causes little cuts to appear on the wall of your vagina and if the man is not wearing a condom when he comes, then semen can get into your bloodstream through these cuts. Mucous membrames like the vagina, anus and mouth are much easier for HIV to get into the bloodstream. Your skin, even with some tiny cuts, is pretty intact and there have been no reported cases of anyone getting HIV from a toilet seat!

In addition, HIV dies within seconds when in the air. So don't worry. But learn more about real dangers so you are not so frightened!



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Re: Can I catch HIV infection this way? new
      #26809 - 01/10/02 10:34 AM

Isn't the vulva considered a mucous membrane? Can't HIV enter the body and into the bloodstream via this mucous membrane then?



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Re: Can I catch HIV infection this way? new
      #99608 - 06/07/04 03:18 PM

yes

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Re: Can I catch HIV infection this way? new
      #106859 - 08/06/04 03:34 AM

HIV can't live outside the body for long so you are at no risk for HIV plus it can be transmitted by urine. So you are fine don't worry about it. HIV can only live a few secnds out of the body so yeah don't worry about it.

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Re: Can I catch HIV infection this way? new
      #196637 - 06/19/06 12:27 PM

[quote]I am only 19 and I don't quite understand why I have to deal with this.<br>Perhaps some will laugh at me for my ignorance and deem this post as a hoax, but I really am frightened over this issue and am losing sleep over this. Please, someone try to help me please, please don't think of thsi as a hoax, it is a truly genuin fear of mine. Anyone, please give me some advise!<br>What happened was this. It happened over 10 months ago in a public restroom.<br>It was pretty crowded in there and U had to wait my turn to use a stall. So there was definitely someone before me using the stall. It finally came to my turn to use the stall. I had just finished my business and was about to use the toilet paper to clean up. For some reason, and I'm really regretting it now, I accidently swiped the toilet paper against the toilet seat before I absent-mindedly continued to use the toilet paper. Oh why didn't I had the presence of mind to discard it? I can't understand. <br>Now I have to live with the thought that I may have exposed myself to HIV infection. I mean, the toilet paper which came into contact with the seat actually also came into contact with my genitalia! <br>Upon realisi ng what I did, I immediately stood up from the seat and started to inspect the seat. To my horror, I saw some stains on the seat! It was not imaginary, there was indeed something on the seat. The lighting was not good so I can't be sure what it was. Now under normal circumstances I probably would not worry, but I keep thinking about how there was an occupant just before me in that stall, what if she had left some infected fluid on the seat? Wouldn't I have come into contact with those fluid then, if they had been there. I don't recall ssing blood, so that may be a source of comfort. But what if she had dripped some blood accidently( sometime this happens to me too, when I am having my period) onto the seat but wiped it away with tissue paper, leaving residue of HIV behind. Can i still get infected this way.<br>I know I have no reason to imply that the previous occupant is HIV positive, but one can never be too sure. Furthermore, the time lap between her exit and my entrance of thes tall was barley seconds long, the virus if it was present would not have enough time to die and not pose a risk.<br>I have been living with all sorts of fear and doubts for the past ten months. I am afraid to test in case I am really positive because of this incident. I am quite certain that before this incident I am negative as I never had practiced any activity that would put me at risk. I am so worrried and obsessed by this one incident that sometimes I even treat myself as infected already. I am always so worried once every month for fear that I may put my dear ones at risk as I am sometimes rather careless about hygiene. I fear that my menses can put my family risk if they acciently came into contact with the blood. I wash the toilet like crazy and do all sorts of things in hope that I will minimise the chances of them catching anything from me, buy sometimes accidents just occur and I will suffer sleepless nights. What shall I do?<br><br> [/quote]

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