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my brother's late stage
#42134 - 10/21/02 05:05 PM
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In march my brother collapsed. He turned out to have late stage aids infection, with encephapathy and dementia. He is 43 and a homophobe. He is home alone now refusing the available communities help. He is doing better, but I am having trouble dealing with his incapacity from 2000 miles away. Any help out there?
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Dear Georgia: I am so sorry for the situation you and your brother are in. I can really empathize with the frustration you must feel at not being able to help. Even with late stage AIDS, you're brother may have very well recovered from the infection he had which may have had dementia as a part of the complication. AIDS is a roller coaster; coming to deaths door (seemingly) and then back to the living again. You indicated I think that 'he is doing well now' so, again, the dementia that can be a related complication of an AIDS related infection doesn't necessarily remain permanent (as in the case of alzheimers for example); in essence, he may not be suffering from dementia now; it he still was, you would definately know it and guardianship issues would come up if he was unable to care for himself. Again, I don't have enough detail to tell. Feel free to post again if you want to. I provided care (as a sole care-giver) for my close friend for 1 1/2 years (to varying degrees of intensity depending on the roller coaster (look up lazerus syndrome on an AIDS website). My friend died in June, fortunately without full out dementia, just a little paranoia etc., but others have different experiences. I also have a friend who periodically goes through episodes of mental health issues that get labeled "dementia" because of his late stage AIDS, but he is now back to work and doing well so it all depends. There are also a number of 'hiv/aids and mental health' sites that you can put in yahoo and review as well. Again, I'm sorry for you and your brother's difficulties; please post again if you want to. Best Regards, Ji
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Can you call the largest AIDS organization in your brother's area and see if they have buddys who can visit with him? Call the National AIDS Hotline: 800-342-2437 (24 hours a day, daily)and they'll tell you about local resources for your brother. Does he have the best HIV specialist you could find for him? Ask the AIDS organization for a referral.
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ji- thanks for the info, I will look up other mental health sites. His Encephalopathy (sp)has taken his short term memory, and the dementia could be just his dealing with the virus. He won't be able to go back to work though, his strength, balance and coordination has been affected. As the for the roller coaster, I hope that I can hold on. How do you continue to support from so far away? When he doesn't answer the phone, I am convinced he has collapsed again. He has been good at reaching out to us when he needs to chat. Now all I need is someone to chat to about how I am dealing with this- what do you do?
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Hi Georgia: I just wrote a whole post to you and it went >>poof<<... rats. Anyway, I know how difficult this time is for you; you sound like a very caring and concerned sister (and person) and I wish nobody had to go through this; neither your brother, you, or anybody else. My thought is that if your brother has encephalopathy/dementia and short-term memory loss and is still telling you he is living alone, he probably has one or more friends who are very involved in helping him out there locally. In home health is likely available to him as well. If his short-term memory fades more, he will remember long-standing relationships and events (like brother & sister) for a longer period of time/will retain those memories the longest. From the description that I have so far, it would surprise me if he is still living alone. If he is, you probably should begin preparing for that not to be the case (if that is at all possible). Most likely, your brother does have a 'circle of friends' for support where he is and, since the two of you are in contact and you are obviously very concerned about him, it would seem likely that he would tell you (or will eventually) if he has no one else to help (I'm sure he knows your situ. and doesn't want to be a burden on you and chances are he well knows what 'the future looks like' from here on out and is reluctant to tell you if you are to far away and can't help or he may have made a plan to go into a hospice/AIDs unit when he feels he's reached that place where he needs to do that. Karl maintained his mental faculties all the way to the end so I'm not sure what I actually would have done had he begun to not recognize me etc. (I tried to read and plan but thankfully things didn't go down like that); he could at least communicate his needs etc. and we had finally gone into the hospice just before he died so others were there with me to care for his needs for that last 2 1/2 days (and Karl could, until about 8 hours before) still 'call the shots' etc.. I have to tell you though that I had talked to a friend of mine whose brother died of AIDs and it was very different for them; her brother became very difficult to control and he couldn't remember anyone or his surroundings or anything/got combative etc.. Karl and I worried about that but, again, by the grace of God, that did not come to pass; don't get me wrong; it still wasn't pretty; but I think when it gets to that stage, and my friend said this as well, they put there son in a nursing home. Karl and I had in home nursing once per week and access to a few more services, but basically, when the final decline came on = it came on relatively rapidly (even still; even though I was right there; I was still so surprised somehow = wierd huh; because of the roller=coaster we'd been on I kept expecting Karl to rebound like he always had before (and tell me to get out of his hair - lol)sooo, you just don't know. All you can do is do the best you can with the info. you had. At the end he did not want his mother with him/it wasn't that he didn't love her/ that's just the choice he made probably so she wouldn't see him that way or whatever; I don't know; the thing is all you can do is keep calling and making yourself available and unless, God forbid, he loses all decision-making capability, respect his wishes and heed what he tells you. Again, Georgia, I am so sorry you are going through this; do you have other family members? Anyone closer in physical proximity to your brother? Is it possible that he has a partner (don't know if he is gay or not but considering all the possibilities) that may be looking after him that perhaps he hasn't shared about (this is not uncommon depending on the family dynamics about sexual orientation issues etc.). Please post again OK? I'll keep you and your brother in my thoughts and prayers Georgia (by the way, what is your brother's first name?) Best regards, Karla
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K- thanks so much for your responses, you probably know what help it is to have an experienced ear. Something rather major that I haven't shared is that my brother (tim) is an alcoholic. Until last week, he seemed to have it more or less under control, but now that he is getting his ssi checks, and goes immediately to the bar. Tim is straight, but it was this drunken craziness that landed him in this position. He does understand that he can't have sex- (we haven't told him that its safer now that his count is up), but this doesn't stop him from treating his body like crap. As far as having at-home assistance, he turned away the home health care service person, and takes limited housekeeping help from his neighbor (who is also an alcoholic). When he first collapsed, his related infections were raging, we didn't think that he would walk again, he was close to passing. Now he is doing well- (comparitively) with the meds. He is very combative at times, he has alienated my other two brothers that live in his town, and the third that lives elsewhere. I even hung up on him yesterday. Tim does have sober friends that put up with him, and we try to keep in touch. Sounds like you were sort of lucky in that Karl kept his faculties. I hope Tim can. He was in a nursing home for two months, (under deress)and when the psych found him competent, he split, and has been unmontitored at home. so - here you have it.ugh.
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Dear Georgia: Whew = this is rough going for you; even under the best of circumstances it is not at all easy to deal with the alcoholism of another and mixing alcohol with HIV meds is not conducive to Tim's long-term well-being. Georgia, it doesn't sound like you can do more than you are doing. Your brother seems like he may be on a self-destruct path and he has to want to change that; you can't do it for him. Georgia - look into some info on co-dependence etc. because if the alcolic thing has been going on for a long time and involves the whole family etc., you need to prepare to take care of you. You cannot FIX your brother. And you cannot subject yourself to an inordinate amount of abuse (though this is going to be the hardest part because of the guilt involved because he is dying etc.); I will tell you that Karl did not use "the I'm dying card to manipulate although substance abuse is often associated with HIV/AIDS for pain relief; to forget etc.. People normally die the way they lived Georgia; and your brother does not get a complete pass because he is dying; people need for you to be able to set limits for you; then you will be able to be there if called upon. Again, I am sooo sorry you are going through this; I will keep you in my prayers and please keep posting OK. Take care!
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I haven't written for a while, my life has seemed so stressed. I am glad to see that others have brothers that they are dealing with too. I only wish that my brother would accept help and was not determined to drink himself into oblivion. For anyone having a similar dilemma, I have worked out a sort of peace at least for myself. I have chosen to limit my support to my brother's medical issues, and withdraw from his other destuctive behaviors. I am supporting his kids,ex-wife and my family with all of my heart. It is the best I can do now.
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I can't help you out and i am trully sorry but i have a few questions for you. I just found out that my brother who just turned 29 has hiv. He was limping during christmas time and the like 2 to 4 days latter he was wobby at walking and now he has lost control of his lower area. What where the stages that your brother went through? Do you think my brother has aids? I belive its the last stage too, the doctors say hiv but they are still doing test after tests. thanks
missy
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