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Full disclosure.....isn't everyone entitled to it?
#205669 - 08/31/06 04:31 PM
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My husband is HIV+ and I am neg. He never really wanted to deal with his status and resented me for trying to inform him of what was happening to his body. I am okay with that but, what bugs me more is that he is currently involved with another woman and did not disclose his status to her prior to sleeping with her unprotected. Needless to say that he did the same thing to me for the first two years of our relationship. I have said it time and time again, the reason that HIV/Aids is so prevelant is SILENCE!! We are in the middle of a divorce and I know that a part of me anger comes from the fact that he has moved on so quickly, but the majority is due to his lack of concern for yet another woman's life. When does it end? My question is, do I tell the new girl or let her find out on her own? I feel guilty not saying anything because no one told me. I feel an obligation to share some potentially life threatening information with the woman who is sleeping with my husband. How ironic is that? Please help me with my problem. All serious solutions will be considered
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How is it, that you know personal details about a relationship that is none of your business. I've been divorced for 12 years and never once did it occur to me to ever inject myself into the relationship with whomever he was seeing.
I know you THINK you are doing this for rightous reasons, but you just want to meddle. You already know that. You've done it from the time, you took responsiblity for his health, by trying to inform him about HIS disease. And you're doing it still.
Take a page from his book. Close the door on this relationship and open the one to your new life.
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I am in the same situation with my ex-husband and we have kids together, and he is with another woman doing the same thing. She does not know, but she just informed me she was pregnant and lost the baby. So, I am even more upset about that and that a baby could be in danger because he is not telling her. We also have kids together, so I can not just stay out of his life either. I don't agree with the previous poster, I totally know where you are coming from. You can private messeage me, please let me know. I have not told the girl either but can not sleep at night with this on my mind....And yes, to everyone else, I have moved on, just worried this woman...
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even though still his matters and not yours, you still have a responsability as a true human been to help if you can. what happens to you should not happens to anyone else. if you know a child molester did something to one of your kids, or your friends kids, will you tell? it is the same, life is a life and worth the same. he is not reponsible to care for others, he was not responsible to care for himself, so something must be done whatever he likes it or not, or whatever he thinks is right or not...and by it everyone else who things contrary.
i can not believe people disregard the risk this new person is, by protecting the status of someone who does not give a fuck.
if i was you, i will be the first one telling this person, why cause this asshole will not do it, and will sentence her to live with this for the rest of her life. even bring a kid to this world to suffer the same...shame on him, and shame of anyone who protect status versus life.
if i am responsible, and do the right thing when it comes to disclose to those i get close to for sex, then i will be mad if someone else tell, but i am not that responsible to value other life, then kick me in my ass.
what makes you sleep right at night?...doing the right thing...no? then you know. God bless you.
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I agree - you need to do what is morally right. And if he has got someone pregnant then he isnt obviously that careful.
Just because he cant come to terms with his disease and deal with it doesnt mean to say someone else shoudl.
My advice is to tell the other woman, she may think it's being made up, your the spiteful ex or whatever ... who cares, your doing the right thing, and one day she will thank you for it.
I was in a similar situation, if only they had told me. but they didnt, and theres not a day goes by where i wish i cuold get my hands on them!
Do the right thing and help to protect a life thats worth protecting, instead of hiding someone's disclosure who is known to be putting lives at risk
IM me if you need to.
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I am sorry that you feel that I am meddling in MY husband's life. His relationship with this woman is MY business. We are STILL married and anything that he does ultimately affects me. If this woman did get infected, there is a precedence to allow her to file attempted murder charges and I do not want to be an accessory. It is not right for him to do what he did to me and if my conscience is getting that best of me because I have information that could help someone else, shouldn't I use it. Wouldn't you want to know??????? Sounds to me like you are bitter and angry because no one had the forethought to inform you!!!!! As for my taking responsibility for my "husband's illness", one of us had to. If he was not willing to take care of himself to protect the both of us, then as his wife, it became my responsibility. Better or worse, sickness and health.....ooops, I forgot, YOU ARE DIVORCED!!!! Guess those words meant nothing to you.
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[quote]I am sorry that you feel that I am meddling in MY husband's life. His relationship with this woman is MY business. We are STILL married and anything that he does ultimately affects me. If this woman did get infected, there is a precedence to allow her to file attempted murder charges and I do not want to be an accessory. It is not right for him to do what he did to me and if my conscience is getting that best of me because I have information that could help someone else, shouldn't I use it. Wouldn't you want to know??????? Sounds to me like you are bitter and angry because no one had the forethought to inform you!!!!! As for my taking responsibility for my "husband's illness", one of us had to. If he was not willing to take care of himself to protect the both of us, then as his wife, it became my responsibility. Better or worse, sickness and health.....ooops, I forgot, YOU ARE DIVORCED!!!! Guess those words meant nothing to you. [/quote]
Touchy aren't we. I must have hit a nerve. Yeah, you're a meddler. I can see why he ditched you. Bitter bitch. It's pretty sad when an HIV postiive guy ditches you isn't it. Must have been humilating. No wonder you're out for revenge. YOUR HUSBAND doesn't want you and he's rubbing it in your face with his new squeeze. You must just be the tired old prune that lives the marter role. No one like a marter. They aren't any fun. Just drudges. Makes you madder than the mad hatter doesn't it that you were so easily replace.
As someone living with HIV, OH YEAH, YOU'RE AREN'T. As I'm sure your husband who grew tired of you felt....health care decisions, rigtht or wrong are our choices. Not some meddlesome outsider. And don't forget you are an outsider.
If you're so concerned about this other situation, why not just get in touch with the local health care department. They can take care of Anon notification. I guess something that simple just doesn't feed the drama you want to create.
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just for you bitter asshole. people well been is more important that anything. if you were as stupid as this guy, and got your dick in the wrong hole, then stop been bitter about it, after all you cause that.
and for the lady who wants to disclose to the other woman cause this other guy is an ass. go ahead, what happens to anyone who is negative and become poz cause an idiot, is not tolerable.
listen you morrons, will you allow a sex offender abuse your child?, or any child? even if it is a relative of yours?
so this is not a different. life is a life and woth the same.
if you see a murder, a roberry, you will not tell?, so if you do not you are in the same spot than the criminal.
if i know of someone who is irresponsible, do not give a fuck about his status,and sleep around with people who does not know make them believe he is negative, bet your ass i will tell, not only to the person, to the authority.
if i am stupid and i do not ask, and take precautions., then the blame is on me, but if the person makes me believe we are in a safe relationship, and try to build a family, but he is liying about his stauts and is only dragging me with him, he deserve to have his balls cut off.
and btw, this is not a bitter woman, this is a guy who has seen all of this happens, so stop been a fuck ass, responsability should be something sacret as a religion, especially when you know you can affect other. simple as that.
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For your information........I left him. The mental and emotional abuse from him became unbearable. I have six children, three of each, and he took out his aggressions on us. The HIV+ guy cried like a baby when I left because I was the one who kept the household together. It is easy to judge someone when you have no idea what you are talking about. I stuck by my husband through things that you could not imagine. My husband took my life and the life of my children in his hands by not telling me that he was infected, but I stayed. He was physically abusive, and I stayed. Making excuse after excuse for his behavior until I realized that I was being abused because he could not take it out on the on the one who infected him because she was dead!!!!!!!! I suffered through the tantrums, the destructive phases, and the deep depression. I watched him wilt away to nothing because he did not want to fight. Right and wrong decisions are made by everyone, but when your are MARRIED, you make them together. I did not leave my husband because I did not love him, I left him to save myself/kids from the person that he became. I love him dearly, talk to him every day, still pick him up from work and cook dinner for him and my step child often. I am sorry that you think that I am trying to be a martyr, but if that is what it takes to slow the progressions of the HIV+ population in one of the nation’s highest rated cities, then so be it!!!!!!
I assume you are doing the same thing that he does, making everyone else pay for your mistakes. That is the problem with most hivers. You never take responsibility for YOUR problems. It is not the neg population's fault that you were careless and allowed yourself to be infected. Blame the person who infected you and yourself for not protecting yourself. I took care of him despite the fact that he lied to me. Most hivers believe that the only person that this disease affects is them. Our entire family was HIV+. We adjusted our diets and daily living to accommodate this disease. Not because we had to, we wanted to let him know that he was not in this alone. IT IS CALLED SUPPORT!!!!!!
I have a step-daughter who lost her mother, will lose her 21 year old brother, and more than likely her father before she graduates high school because of SILENCE. Her mother did not tell her father that she was HIV+ until she was on her death bed. Why would you condone that type of behavior? This disease affects everyone in the family. STOP thinking that it is all about you. Think about the people around you who have to deal with your side affects to the medication, the constant mood swings, the depression, the late night trips to the hospital, the inability to work due to the neropathy, the headaches, etc……. I got the feeling that you are just like him, protecting you precious sex life instead of the life of another human being. There is nothing wrong with caring for another life. If someone cared about you, maybe you would not be HIV+!!!!!!! Don't you wish that you would have known prior to being infected? Don't you replay that series of events that led up to it over and over again, trying to figure out how you could have prevented it?
Thank you for the information thought about the health department.
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Thank you!!!!!!
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[quote] if i am stupid and i do not ask, and take precautions., then the blame is on me, but if the person makes me believe we are in a safe relationship, and try to build a family, but he is liying about his stauts and is only dragging me with him, he deserve to have his balls cut off. [/quote]
Until two people go test together no one really knows each others status and it should always be assumed that they are infected and precautions taken as needed.
You seem to forget about people that are infected and don't know it. According to the CDC that's 25% percent of the HIV/AIDS population.
So yes, if a person doesn't take responsibility for THEIR own health, instead of counting on someone else then they aren't too bright.
Morally I agree, a person should not put another person at risk. But I don't discount the importance of PERSONAL responsibilty. Much easier to be a big boy and take care of yourself, then to become infected and want to cry and blame someone else. If you are infected it's your own fault.
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[quote]For your information........I left him. The mental and emotional abuse from him became unbearable. I have six children, three of each, and he took out his aggressions on us. The HIV+ guy cried like a baby when I left because I was the one who kept the household together. It is easy to judge someone when you have no idea what you are talking about. I stuck by my husband through things that you could not imagine. My husband took my life and the life of my children in his hands by not telling me that he was infected, but I stayed. He was physically abusive, and I stayed. Making excuse after excuse for his behavior until I realized that I was being abused because he could not take it out on the on the one who infected him because she was dead!!!!!!!! I suffered through the tantrums, the destructive phases, and the deep depression. I watched him wilt away to nothing because he did not want to fight. Right and wrong decisions are made by everyone, but when your are MARRIED, you make them together. I did not leave my husband because I did not love him, I left him to save myself/kids from the person that he became. I love him dearly, talk to him every day, still pick him up from work and cook dinner for him and my step child often. I am sorry that you think that I am trying to be a martyr, but if that is what it takes to slow the progressions of the HIV+ population in one of the nation’s highest rated cities, then so be it!!!!!!
I assume you are doing the same thing that he does, making everyone else pay for your mistakes. That is the problem with most hivers. You never take responsibility for YOUR problems. It is not the neg population's fault that you were careless and allowed yourself to be infected. Blame the person who infected you and yourself for not protecting yourself. I took care of him despite the fact that he lied to me. Most hivers believe that the only person that this disease affects is them. Our entire family was HIV+. We adjusted our diets and daily living to accommodate this disease. Not because we had to, we wanted to let him know that he was not in this alone. IT IS CALLED SUPPORT!!!!!!
I have a step-daughter who lost her mother, will lose her 21 year old brother, and more than likely her father before she graduates high school because of SILENCE. Her mother did not tell her father that she was HIV+ until she was on her death bed. Why would you condone that type of behavior? This disease affects everyone in the family. STOP thinking that it is all about you. Think about the people around you who have to deal with your side affects to the medication, the constant mood swings, the depression, the late night trips to the hospital, the inability to work due to the neropathy, the headaches, etc……. I got the feeling that you are just like him, protecting you precious sex life instead of the life of another human being. There is nothing wrong with caring for another life. If someone cared about you, maybe you would not be HIV+!!!!!!! Don't you wish that you would have known prior to being infected? Don't you replay that series of events that led up to it over and over again, trying to figure out how you could have prevented it? [/quote]
What a soap opera. No wonder you're such a bitter bitch.
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"I assume you are doing the same thing that he does, making everyone else pay for your mistakes. That is the problem with most hivers. You never take responsibility for YOUR problems. It is not the neg population's fault that you were careless and allowed yourself to be infected. Blame the person who infected you and yourself for not protecting yourself. I took care of him despite the fact that he lied to me. Most hivers believe that the only person that this disease affects is them. Our entire family was HIV+. We adjusted our diets and daily living to accommodate this disease. Not because we had to, we wanted to let him know that he was not in this alone. IT IS CALLED SUPPORT!!!!!! "
You are a bitch! How dare you say that anyone brought this on themselves! Sounds like you're saying we deserve it! You don't know shit, you seem to think because your husband is infected that you know everything about living with AIDS. Well you don't! And your entire family doesn't have AIDS, he does, the rest of you are affected by AIDS. It is NOT the same thing as haveing AIDS, because you can (and have) leave and not have to deal with it, he can't, he is stuck with it for the rest of his life! No wonder he is bitter, you are making him that way! Seeing how you left him, what he does is none of your business and you can say "I am still married to him" because you left him and the only thing binding the 2 of you together is a meaningless piece of paper.
So by your own statement, if you became infected, it would have been your own fault for not protecting yourself? "It is not the neg population's fault that you were careless and allowed yourself to be infected. Blame the person who infected you and yourself for not protecting yourself." So by the same token, the new woman will be at fault for not protecting herself. Oh and it is my fault because when I was raped at the age of 12 I did not protect myself and I should have thought that my rapist had AIDS!
Get your own life and leave his alone, you left him but you still want to control what goes on, sounds like a bitch to me!
-------------------- Namu-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
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HELLO if a a person has protected OR unprotected sex with someone that they have not disclosed their HIV+ status to, the law says it's attempted murder. PERIOD
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