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Lunar76
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Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex
      #262698 - 04/26/12 01:15 PM

Hi all,

I wondered how many other magnetic hetrosexual couples are practising unsafe sex? We were told by our specialist that after a couple of months on ART, we could decide whether to use condoms or not. We chose the latter and have been having LOTS of unprotected sex. I know there is still a risk but based on a doctor saying the risk is very low and then the Swiss study, i'm thinking that most people are covering their arses when they say use protection....just incase one slips through the net.

How many other serodiscordants are not using condoms out there and how long have they stayed negative? Or is there anyone out there that has adhered to medication whithout any slip ups, been undetectable and not used condoms, only for their partner to still seroconvert??

I'm just trying to work out the level of risk here as when our doctor changed, he looked shocked at what the original doctor said.

Many thanks,


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alive2
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Re: Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex new
      #262700 - 04/26/12 06:13 PM

i was very unsure about not using condoms at first. now i see it as a necessary endeavor.
my reasoning is simple to me, knowing what hiv has done to me over the years, i find it unthinkable to not use them. my first thoughts were about my wife and the love i have for her, and the way i feel about this is an easy conclusion, i dont want to give her my hiv, its my unending love that i want to share, not my virus.
i feel if there is any kind of chance to pass it to her, i dont want to take any kind of risk, and thats where my love and respect come into the equation.
it even can cause some pressure on ones lovelife, but being able to have a good understanding about our evolution of our lives with hiv i think if you dont respect the love of your life then you may not respect the freind that the person was first.
sometimes in the heat of passion you still have to remember that what we positive people deal with , that in itself shoud serve as a reminder of what you may have the responcibility for infecting someone. knowing how difficult we have it in our lives with hiv, then it shouldnt come as any kind of selfishness to even give the smallest chance of passing it to your love. the rest of your loves life is at issue, would you or anyone really wannt to take that chance, in spite of thinking and using a condom? it only takes a couple seconds to ensure a healthy life is protected. my doctors office give the condoms away free of charge and we should never use the excuse we didnt have condoms, because there will never be an excuse when you infect someone because of either being ignorant and use any excuse, afterall there isnt any real excuse for not using the safest way to prevent passing it on to any other person. i wish you well and hope you can find it in yourself to really apply the most prudent thinking and respect for your love. good luck ,take care

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Pos_in_Thailand
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Re: Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex new
      #262857 - 05/03/12 10:23 AM

Here are a couple of good articles that seems to put it in perspective:
http://www.thebodypro.com/content/66937/an-answer-to-a-commonly-asked-question-is-treatmen.html?ic=2005

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hiv-transmission/AN02147

Edited by Pos_in_Thailand (05/03/12 09:18 PM)

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BABYDUST
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Re: Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex new
      #262913 - 05/05/12 12:12 PM

hi, my husband is pos, i am neg. tried art twice, one mc. doing my third now. we use condom all the time, but there is one broken 1 year back. i was tested, still neg. what the doctor told me is getting hiv from him (if his vl is undectable) is very very low.
hopes this helps...

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alive2
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Re: Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex new
      #262915 - 05/05/12 02:34 PM

i see your comment and it mystifies me, because, if theres any chance isnt that enough to make you want to be safe? any chance means there is a small posibility you might get infected, so you should remember being safe is much easier than taking medications and risking anybodies health.wether your married or not. i want to give my love to my wife not hiv. be carefull all the time, take care.

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tcocoa
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Re: Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex new
      #262966 - 05/08/12 04:38 PM

I agree with alive2. please be safe. im going through a scare right now because of my fear and now this person has to get tested at the 3 month mark. the first test was negatvive. i can tell you how horrible i feel right now. I WILL NEVER EVER GO THAT ROUTE AGAIN. LESSONLEARNED. but, being that you already know its best you protect yourself at all cost. this disease is expensive to have and it comes with alot of responsibility. i wish you the best.

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simplyviolett
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Re: Serodiscordant hetrosexuals practising unsafe sex new
      #271237 - 03/19/13 05:26 PM


If you want to play Russian Roulette with your life. It's all on you.

You seem a bit naive hun.


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