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Cure for HIV not discussed
#251614 - 08/13/10 02:42 PM
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Why does no one on here EVER discuss cure? This is strange to me that no one seems to even be concerned about a cure at all. Everything is being discussed except a cure. There is something wrong with the fact that no one is even concerned about a cure for HIV in these groups and The Body Experts seems to suggest how to live with it but do NOT discuss anything hopeful for a cure. These doctors on here dont know everyhing so I would not put all my faith and hope in the things they say on here. They are not the only doctors in the world. I used to read these posts a lot but I dont anymore and I am doin much better since I dont read these posts so much. They never discuss a cure and I tink thats a form of brainwasig and its very sad to me. I think outside the box and dont take everything the doctors say on here for face value. I trust my doctor more than I trust the posts the doctors are posting on here. Anyone agree?
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So what does your doctor say about a cure?
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Atheena
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Yes I too am curious on what your Doctor says about a "Cure".
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Actually a cure is not not-discussed.
Its a looong way away, if we ever get one. There has been a breakthrough within the last month in the discovery of a couple of antibodies that can fight 90% of the HIV strains out there. This means vaccine in 10-15 years (with a bit of luck!), not cure, but its a step in the right direction.
Be very wary of anyone suggesting a "cure" right now - they are frauds, at best mis-informed and at worst maliciously inclined.
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You know what your kind of right I do see the brainwashing and I do see no one hardly discussing or asking for a cure even if it "doesnt exsist". I feel like they focus on giving us treatments, and instead of several pills you can take one and how to live with and how to maintain HIV blah blah blah. Its kind of odd that every cure in the past has failed now there is Thereputic vaccine that is in the works AND I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR IT hopefully it is successful soon. But what concerns me is why so long? why are using a gene from a HIV positive person whose viral load remains undetectable without meds but their CD4 count is affected by it, why not use an elite controller whose CD4 count is unaffected by HIV as well as viral load remains undetectable? Why are there about 4% of caucasian people who cant even get HIV even if they had sex with someone with HIV unprotected? Why is it not possible to take that gene from caucasians and replicate it in others people even if the DNA is different? but clones can be made and animals and fruits can be spliced and have hybirds. I feel like its alot of politics and statistics Example there are about 6 billion people in the world of those 6 billion, 42 million people are HIV positive seems like a lot, but no, not really compared to the 5,958,000,000 who do not have it. More Stastics the U.S has about 305 million people only about 1.1 million people have HIV that is about .3 % of the U.S population STILL VERY SMALL. Half of the HIV world populaiton is in Africa and half of the U.S. HIV population are minorities so its not affecting the majority's like Americal and Europe so there for they don't really care I know what I said you may not agree and may think its harsh but since I got this thing my "veil of ignorance" has been removed. I also cant help but to think that they discovered HIV is now about to the threaten the majority so they have to make a theraputic vaccine because it might be evolving *THIS IS AN EXAGGERATION and is contagious to the point that if you touch someone you get it or its about to go airborne or saliva can transmit it SAD BUT MIGHT BE TRUE. stay healthy
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Contre Vir looks very promising. Heres the
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http://www.immunoscience.com/en/immunoscience.html
Go to Contre Vir tab, its really interesting and I personally think it has merit. I wont ask the donctors on here because I know they will find a way to invalidate it. I havent heard them say anything positive in reference to a cure so I wont bother asking what they think. Who said they know everything anyway.
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I wont bother responding to this because you seem like a really negative person so why bother trying to enlighten you in any way.
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Contre Vir looks very promising. Heres the
Web site:
http://www.immunoscience.com/en/immunoscience.html
Go to Contre Vir tab, its really interesting and I personally think it has merit. I wont ask the doctors on here because I know they will find a way to invalidate it. I havent heard them say anything positive in reference to a cure so I wont bother asking what they think. Who said they know everything anyway.
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Contre Vir certainly looks like it may become a promising addition to the arsenal of drugs used to treat HIV. A cure it is not.
In the website's own words "As opposed to the above approaches, Contre Vir™ is unique. Contre Vir™ is a therapeutic AIDS vaccine so it is designed to be given to patients already infected with the HIV virus."
They say it's a therapeutic vaccine, not a cure.
From their own information Contre Vir acts against the virus that is actively replicating but that does nothing to remove the inactive virus that can be found resting within the body. It's for this same reason that when people stop taking medication they have viral rebound.
It's the resting virus that has been the devil to pay in finding a cure. Science hasn't figured out how to wipe out those reserves.
I'm sure you will find this all very negative, but the truth is that without these advances in just treating HIV a cure would be even further in the future. Cures don't come easily or quickly. There still isn't one for Cancer or Diabetes, or Alzheimer's, etc.
I also don't see what's so wrong with asking what your doctor says about it. After all, you are the one that said you trusted your doctor more than the doctor's on here. Obviously he/she must have an opinion about a cure, elsewise why bring up your doctor?
So what does your doctor say?
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Thats your opinion and your entitled to it. The point I was making is that none of the doctors or people on here seem concerned about a cure at all which is very peculiar to me. You would think on a site like the subject would come up every once in a while. I havent seen anything posted by a doctor that references encouraging news about a cure so I choose not to spend too much time on this site. These doctors dont know everything and they cant possibly know whether a cure is around the corner or not. I choose to be positive and hold on to some faith and hope in other doctors and scientists and the progress they are making on curing or eradicating HIV.
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I read the info on the site and it applies to me, persons already infeccted with HIV. I dont know what you read but from what I read and saw, it is supposed to rid the body of HIV. Your right, you are a negative thInking person but hey thats you. I would rather focus on advances in research than on people like you who cant find anything optimistic in research. Good luck to you. I dont discuss my doctor visits in a public forum, sorry to disappoint you!
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A therapeutic vaccine is good enough for me as long as it rids my body of HIV thats all im concerned with. Do with the information on the site as you wish. Your obviously a negative perrson and will pobably always be. I dont associate with negative people because I try to stay positive regarding HIV research and this research looks very promising to me. Im sure you will find something negative to say even if there is a cure. Why are you so concerned with what my doctor says to me? No I dont believe the doctors on here know everything, that is a given. If you think they do then you are highly mistaken but good luck anyway but keep your negativity to yourself, theres no room for it in my circle. Besides, I said that a cure is never discussed in these forums and now I see why.
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Asking what your doctor said was a fair question. You brought him up in the context that no one on here discusses a cure and then proceeded to trash what the doctors on here have to say and then SAID you would trust your doctor more.
To quote: "These doctors on here dont know everyhing so I would not put all my faith and hope in the things they say on here. They are not the only doctors in the world. I used to read these posts a lot but I dont anymore and I am doin much better since I dont read these posts so much. They never discuss a cure and I tink thats a form of brainwasig and its very sad to me. I think outside the box and dont take everything the doctors say on here for face value. I trust my doctor more than I trust the posts the doctors are posting on here."
So I don't see why you are so defensive when asked what your doctor says about a cure? You brought the subject up.
Matter of fact you seem quite defensive of anyone with a different opinion then yours especially in connection with a medication that hasn't even reached clinical trials yet and if successful won't be seen on the market for years.
As far as a cure. There's been lots of promises made and people used to get all excited, but after so long and too many failures I don't bother to expend energy getting all excited about the latest 'maybe'. The last vaccine looked promising until they had to stop in in the middle of the trails. That one really did look promising and it's failure was a disappointment to many.
As I said, it may have promise, but their information doesn't really address how it will be able to seek out the resting virus. The little slide show showed the medication working on active virus only. That will not wipe out the virus in the body. The company has not produced any empirical data on this in the last decade that they have been working on it.
Jumping in to defend something that hasn't been proven because you wish it to work doesn't make good sense. We all wish for a cure, but doing so without a pragmatic approach will only leave you vunerable to every snake oil salesman around that has an unproven promise of a cure.
Good luck only interacting with people that agree with you always, in the name of positivity. The emperor liked to be surrounded by yes men also, it only made him a fool.
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Whatever, Im NOT going to discuss my visit with my doctor with you or anyone else. Wish you the best but dont communicate with me anymore
thanks
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Wow over 1,000 posts. You must live on this site LOL
Good luck to you Ezmeralda
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