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Terry30
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Do gay men want to die?
      #16881 - 03/22/01 06:05 PM

I recentley whatched a friend destroy himself with drugs, not eating and having a very nagative outlook on life. I'm convinced he wanted to die. But why are gay men killing themselves through self-destruction. Could there be more to this aids thing than a virus. Is it a spiritual/ phychological thing instead. Any ideas??



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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #16882 - 03/22/01 06:10 PM

Hetrosexuals are just as likely to indulge in self-destruction. To say it's only gays is being a little bit blind to all human behavior.



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Terry30
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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #16884 - 03/22/01 09:47 PM

Good point but most heterosexuals eventualy stop this pattern get married and have the responsibilty of children morgage... There are plenty of gay men who live the "party" life until they can no longer do it. Is this type of "lifestyle" a celebration or an excuse to live in denial and escapism.



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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #16889 - 03/23/01 11:52 AM

I think you are missing a big point. Being gay is still not quite accepted. And so there is a lot of self hatred and low self esteem. Gays are still ostracized in many families and communities.



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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #16923 - 03/23/01 09:54 PM

And how does this effect the health of gay men? Some seem to react by turing this outward while others internalize it and get sick. Homophobia is a disease and the cure seem sto be affirmations and good nutrition.



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Re: Terry30 new
      #16935 - 03/25/01 05:47 PM

I'm not sure where you're going with this but it sounds like a loaded question. I think the question has a very complex answer. But again, I don't think gays are more self destructive then straights. I do however think a gay life style is a difficult one which has no established and accepted place in the larger culture and therefore to be able to enjoy and reap the benefits that acceptance brings.
This is not so different from other less accepted groups (sub-cultures) blacks in particular suffer from the stress of not being accepted. All in all, I think the gay community has managed pretty well to establish a place in the larger culture, but has many hurdles to go.



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Re: Terry30 new
      #16977 - 03/26/01 10:53 PM

If blacks suffer from the same stress why are they not dying from drug induced aids?



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Amy
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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #17164 - 04/02/01 01:18 PM

Are you an HIV+ person posing these questions? No offense, but the questions are loaded and a bit judgmental...



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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #17172 - 04/03/01 01:31 PM

As a gay man who has been "around the block", so to speak, I must say that Terry is really not being judgemental.

Ever been to a gay bath house? As you are a female, I would expect the answer to be no! But if you had, you would have a very different viewpoint.

There are many who get caught up in a scene that involves toxic inhalants, sex, recreational drugs, repeated venereal diseases, and the subsequent courses of antibiotics required to treat these veneral diseases.

This phenomenon is partly generated by the widespread suppression of male-to-male sexuality across our society. When energies of a group are suppressed they emerge in negative forms, such as addiction to sex, drug dependency, pornography, etc.

Granted, most gays are no longer in this trap and can visit a bath house from time to time and participate in a deeper erotic life without losing control—but there are always some who are prone to destructive behaviors because of where they are psychologically, physically, spiritually, and emotionally.



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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #17178 - 04/03/01 08:44 PM

I mean no disrespect but, that is a silly question. So-called gay men are no more likely to want to die than anybody else. First of all I HATE LABELS! The term "gay" is ambiguos and imprecise that it means nothing. What is gay? If you do it once...are you gay? If a brother gets his knob slobbed on but nothing else...is he gay? Does it mean the passive one or both? Anyone or all of things are notions used by people when they make a judgement about who is or is not "GAY"! So-called "GAY" people are "PEOPLE"!



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Re: Do gay men want to die? new
      #17208 - 04/05/01 05:54 PM

What does hiv anti-body postive have to do with asking questions? And why do your feel this is a loaded question?



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Terry30
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Re: Questioning gay culture?? new
      #17209 - 04/05/01 05:59 PM

I did not ask this question as a jugement against gays but as a way to examine within our lives where we are self-destructive. In gay culture there are no rules or "guidelines" to follow. Many people feel that since we are judged so harshly bay society that we should be able to do what we want (ie take tons of drugs and live materialistic and spiritually empty lives). Next time you pick up a gay mag look at the ads in them. How many are drug ads and how much of the news is negative?



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Re: Terry30 new
      #17914 - 05/19/01 10:24 PM

>If blacks suffer from the same stress why are they not >dying from drug induced aids?

Actually blacks, hispanics, and women in general are the fastest growing addition to this thing of ours.



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