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Anonymous
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Think about it
      #11981 - 11/07/00 03:41 AM

Is the AIDS virus harmless? Is AIDS not contagious?
Are the AIDS tests worthless? Is AIDS medication killing patients? Find out what the AIDS establishment and media do not want you to know...

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/



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Re: Think about it new
      #11983 - 11/07/00 09:08 AM

first off there is no "aids" virus. there is HIV virus that causes aids, which now is more often know as advance hiv disease.

second, without the medication people would die. It isn't killing us, it has brought many of us back from the brink of death.



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Re: Think about it new
      #12090 - 11/09/00 06:54 PM

HAART is not immunosuppresive:

WESTPORT, CT (Reuters Health) Nov 8 - Antiretroviral agents do not seem to have a direct effect, independent of suppression of retroviral replication, on T-cell counts in HIV-negative individuals.

The findings contrast with the "proliferation hypotheses and the hypothetical braking of lymphocyte apoptosis induced by antiretroviral agents independent of retroviral inhibition," Drs. Vincenzo Puro and Giuseppe Ippolito, of the National Institute for Infectious Diseases in Rome, Italy, note in the current issue of the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes, dated August 15.

On behalf of the Italian Registry on Antiretroviral Postexposure Prophylaxis, the investigators used retrospective data to determine the effects of antiretroviral agents on T-cell counts in healthcare workers occupationally exposed to HIV. Prophylaxis, if given, had included zidovudine, zidovudine plus lamivudine, or zidovudine plus lamivudine and indinavir at standard doses for 30, 27, and 27 days, respectively.

Of the subjects, 284 received prophylaxis following HIV-1-exposure and 164 did not. The Italian duo determined that mean counts of CD4 and CD8 cells had increased slightly in both treated and untreated patients. These increases were not correlated with the duration of postexposure prophylaxis, gender or side effects.

The data "seem to reject any direct effects of antiretroviral agents on proliferation and redistribution of T lymphocytes," Drs. Puro and Ippolito conclude.

J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr 2000;24:440-443.



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Re: Think about it new
      #12093 - 11/09/00 10:21 PM

"WESTPORT, CT (Reuters Health) Nov 8 - Antiretroviral agents do not seem to have a direct effect, independent of suppression of retroviral replication, on T-cell counts in HIV-negative individuals."

Since the above is the basic premise of the article. Couple questions and observations.

Why would any of us that are HIV+ care about T-Cell counts in Hiv- individuals?

Of course antiretrovirals don't increase t-cell counts independent of suppression of retroviral replication. They cause the suppression which then allows the body to increase t-cells. I've never heard the idea that antiretrovirals increase t-cells, that's not their job. That's why they're called antiretrovirals.

But for all I care, go ahead and not take meds. It's your life not mine.








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Re: Think about it new
      #12101 - 11/10/00 11:52 AM

I've take HAART for years. I've taken AZT over 700 consecutive times? Why am I not dead? Why am I so strong and attractive? Why do I feel so good?



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Re: Think about it new
      #12141 - 11/11/00 06:35 PM

infected circa. 1991 - 2


  • April 30, 1998


    • Started HAART ddI+d4T+HU+NVP


  • September 12, 1998


    • Started AZT+3TC+NVP


  • September 14, 1999


    • Started PIs AMP+RIT+ABC+d4T


  • Jan 16, 2000


    • full body set, my weight: 159#




lbs reps exercise
---- ---- ---------------------------
99 7 seated shoulder press
86 3 seated shoulder press
86 4 seated shoulder press
83 12 standing triceps pushdown
38 10 standing biceps curl
38 12 standing hamstring curl
128 10 seated quadriceps extention
115 11 abdominal crunch
128 13 seated chest press
147 15 rear lat pulldown
115 14 abdominal crunch


  • November 5, 2000


    • mid body set, 174#



lbs reps exercise
--- ---- ---------------------------
112 12 front lat pulldowns (wide grip)
112 12 front lat pulldowns
192 15 front lat pulldowns
38 12 reverse lat pulldowns (narrow grip)
52 12 reverse lat pulldowns
148 12 reverse lat pulldowns
28 12 standing bicep curl
28 12 standing bicep curl
42 11 standing bicep curl
91 12 oblique crunch
91 12 oblique crunch
112 12 oblique crunch
91 12 abdominal crunch
91 12 abdominal crunch
112 12 abdominal crunch
66 10 dead lift
76 10 dead lift
94 10 dead lift
108 10 dead lift

November 7, 2000

upper body set, 173#

lbs reps exercise
--- ---- ---------------------------
93 12 seated chest press
93 12 seated chest press
175 16 seated chest press
48 12 seated shoulder press
48 12 seated shoulder press
138 9 seated shoulder press
138 10 seated shoulder press
28 12 upright row
28 12 upright row
38 15 upright row
38 12 standing tricep pushdown
38 12 standing tricep pushdown
69 15 standing tricep pushdown
10 12 bent over raise (read deltoids)
10 12 bent over raise
19 12 bent over raise

November 9, 2000

lower body set, 175#

lbs reps exercise
---- ---- ----------
87 12 calves
175 12 calves
175 12 calves
175 12 calves
49 12 leg extensions (quads)
49 12 leg extensions (quads)
140 13 leg extensions (quads)
28 12 leg curls (hamstrings)
28 12 leg curls (hamstrings)
38 12 leg curls (hamstrings)
10 12 hip abductions, inner
10 12 hip abductions, inner
20 12 hip abductions, inner
20 10 hip abductions, inner
10 12 hip abductions, outer
10 12 hip abductions, outer
20 17 hip abductions, outer

Still on HAART, less two brief treatment interruptions

Why don't the drugs make me weak and sick?




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Re: Think about it new
      #12143 - 11/11/00 07:13 PM

> Why would any of us that are HIV+ care about T-Cell counts in Hiv- individuals?

Simple. By testing HAART on non-infected people it eliminates all the complexity associated with HIV/AIDS.

> Of course antiretrovirals don't increase t-cell counts independent of suppression of retroviral replication. They cause the suppression which then allows the body to increase t-cells. I've never heard the idea that antiretrovirals increase t-cells, that's not their job. That's why they're called antiretrovirals.

Boy I bet scientist had you as an instrument. They could save a bundle on trials if they could just know things instead of research.

> But for all I care, go ahead and not take meds. It's your life not mine.

What the [f][u][c][k] makes you think that I don't take HAART?




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Re: Think about it new
      #12210 - 11/13/00 10:54 AM

I'm hiv+ since 15 years, and I've tried a lot of meds (proteasi inhibitors yet), but the only thing I have had it's a great diarrhea so I go on living (very well) without any drugs.
I've only 18 CD4, but I work a lot every day (in a University as computer programmer), I've a daughter (she is negative, even if she was born positive to hiv) but my husband died (because of AIDS, or better because AZT).
I knew the site you have proposed, there is also a book about the great bluff about HIV.
Bye.
Good Luck




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Re: Think about it new
      #18417 - 06/14/01 09:53 PM

Why are people even giving this a second look. These are those ignorant researchers that call themselves the Perth group. Their website is actually quite amusing. You've got some pictures that look like they got them from the professor on faces of death. All I can say is they all know our stories and they WILL all go to hell!



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Re: Think about it new
      #99141 - 05/25/04 02:30 PM

ok - a lot of people won't like this.

i've been hiv+ for some 15 years now. this is what happend to me just 4 weeks ago:

got bitten by an insect. after 4 days it was a huge infection. as it was late, went to the kensington and chelsea and westminster emergency room in london, right next to the kobler centre, where i have been a patient for more than 10 years as they are supposed to be hiv specialists. before i revealed my hiv status to the night shift doctor on duty, i was told that bite would need an incision, i'd get some antibiotics and thats that. then i told them about my status.

three hours later the hiv doctor on duty showed up. the infection was quite bad. dead tissue. clearly needed an incision, if not more. the hiv doctor looked at it, and pumped me full of antibiotics. she was convinced that an incision was no longer needed.

the next day i flew out to berlin. had to. work. went straight to the hospital. told them nothing about my status. within 3 hours i was on the operating table, full aneasthetic, big abscess, local aneasthitic useless, antibiotics too can not penetrate dead tissue.

during all this time as a patient at the kobler centre in london i always questioned my treatment options. in the early 90-ties i noticed that most people i knew who participated in trials or adhered to the treatment given, well, they died.

so i did not take azt, nevirapine, ddc, ddc, and what else these things are called.

and i am healthy to date. my ex-wife gets the flu more often than i do. i get it about once a year. and when that happens everyone thinks i am about to snuff it. when my ex-wife gets the flu - weel, who cares!

my advice: make up your own mind. do not believe anything simply because mainstream medicine is telling you so. look around you. read statistics with care. questions science and the people that tell you to take medicine as to what it is exactly they want you to do and why.

and be careful revealing your status. beware of the hiv-aids cult out there. a multi billion dollar industry now exists, thousands of ngo's depend on the existence of hiv and aids.

all of these organisations and people have their own interests in prescribing you substances that are not necessarily good for you - apart from the psycho terror you will go through if you reveal your status and you do not happen to be gay!

thats all i can tell you. good luck!

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