Is the triple cocktail helping to spread AIDS? - TheBody.com's Bulletin Boards

This is amazing stuff - and loads and loads of ammo to work with. Finally, the fact that these huge estimates are just ploys to get more funding. Is this the long awaited CDC return of fire against the WHO/UNAIDS? "Two US health officials working on AIDS... speaking on condition of anonymity... " It doesn't take much to read between the lines. I guess the WHO/UNAIDS finally have a worthy adversary on their hands.

Read it all at the Boston Globe, at:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/06/20/estimates_on_hiv_called_too_high/

" Some specialists raised questions about the estimates in mid-January, after a report on a household survey in Kenya that estimated a 6.7 percent national HIV prevalence rate, compared with the UN's 15 percent estimate in 2002.
Two weeks later in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, at a conference on estimating HIV and AIDS prevalence, epidemiologist Peter D. Ghys raised the question of potentially inflated AIDS rates before several dozen epidemiologists. Ghys estimates HIV and AIDS figures for UNAIDS. On the last slide of his presentation, Ghys wrote, "Should UNAIDS/ WHO estimates be lowered by 25 percent?"
Asked recently about his question, Ghys said he raised it in light of the new Kenyan data: "We already had lowered estimates quite a bit in the previous year, but since then, we've had additional information that came in somewhat lower than our estimates. Maybe it will change again, but it's difficult for us to say, yes, it should be 25 percent or something." "
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/06/20/estimates_on_hiv_called_too_high?pg=3
" Chin said he thinks the global rate is inflated by 25 percent to 40 percent, while two US health officials working on AIDS said they think the global numbers may be 50 percent inflated. The two spoke on condition of anonymity. "
" Rates also were lowered by a third in Zimbabwe because of significant numbers of faulty HIV tests. "
" In the late 1980s and early 1990s, HIV prevalence in adults aged 15 to 49 in Uganda was estimated as high as 30 percent; now HIV prevalence is estimated at 5 percent. But now many no longer believe the 30 percent figure, raising questions about the true impact of Uganda's much-touted prevention program. Said Ghys: "If we recast our estimates, it wasn't 30 percent, it was maybe 22 or something."

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Uganda has an annual population growth of well over 3% per year (as to the US's 1% per year) and yet, this is one of the countries that these dire predictions were made about, 20 years ago.

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Mbeki questions Aids stats
08/02/2004 21:57 - (SA)
Jan-Jan Joubert and Willem Jordaan
Cape Town - President Thabo Mbeki on Sunday questioned the extent of HIV/Aids deaths, because of the absence of statistics on the causes of death in South Africa.
After Mbeki did not focus on HIV/Aids and Zimbabwe in his State of the Nation address on Friday, he was bombarded with questions on these issues in an interview with the SABC on Sunday.
In his reaction, Mbeki said he would address the two issues in a second State address after the election.
Reacting to a question on his personal roll in government's fight against the pandemic, Mbeki indicated that deputy president Jacob Zuma was handling the matter on government's behalf.
He said that the allocation to HIV/Aids in the budget showed that "few countries were doing as much as South Africa".
When asked whether it wouldn't help if he personally showed more empathy with sufferers of the disease, Mbeki retorted that he had said a lot about the issue and that government's stance on the matter remained unchanged.
"Tuberculosis is also a big problem. My doctors say there is a diabetes epidemic. Why does nobody talk about it? There are many health issues."
When it was put to him that these diseases were treatable while HIV/Aids was not, he said: "No, that is not the reason". Interviewer Redi Diareko quoted statistics of the World Health Organisation and exclaimed: "This is our country about which these findings were made. You are our leader ..." Mbeki responded that the WHO could speak for itself, but that South Africa did not have reliable statistics on causes of deaths. He said he wanted something more than mathematical calculations - information on death certificates.
More at... news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,6119,2-7-12_1480787,00.html

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Every epidemic disease is now renamed 'AIDS' under the Bangui Definition.
Mortalities (non natural) in S.A. remain at the same 2.2% P.A. that they were BEFORE AIDS. Either every other disease in the region vanished overnight or 'AIDS' is simply the old diseases with a new name. You decide.
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In Africa, the continent supposedly being decimated by
HIV, HIV tests are rarely ever done, so there the idea
that all patients with AIDS are infected with HIV is
based entirely on supposition.
At a WHO conference in the Central African Republic in 1985, U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) introduced the "Bangui Definition" of AIDS in Africa.
The CDC officials later explained, "The definition was reached by consensus, based mostly on the delegates' experience in treating AIDS patients. It has proven a useful tool in determining the extent of the AIDS epidemic in Africa, especially in areas where no testing is available.
It's major components were prolonged fevers (for a month or more), weight loss of 10% or greater, and prolonged diarrhea..."(McCormick, 1996). Where AIDS is diagnosed clinically, large numbers of AIDS patients test negative for HIV. As no HIV testing is required in Africa we have no idea how many AIDS cases there are HIV positive (De ####, 1991; Gilks, 1991; Widy-Wirski, 1988).
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Other conditions common in underprivileged and
impoverished communities that are known to cause false
positive results are tuberculosis, malaria, hepatitis and leprosy (Burke, 1993; Challakeree, 1993; Johnson, 1998; Kashala, 1994; MacKenzie,1992; Meyer, 1987). In fact, these are the primary health threats in Africa; several million cases of tuberculosis and malaria are reported in Africa each year - more than all the AIDS cases reported in Africa since 1982 (WHO, 1998)*.

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