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blood counts can indicate infection
#92746 - 03/21/04 08:58 AM
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As an old timer of this board having had ALL the ars symptoms and 20 negative HIV tests including PCR’s DNA bDNA I recently received the results from a blood count that shows my lymphocyte percentage which was 45 right at the top of the range. HIV positive people have high lymphocyte percentages so any one of those so-called doctors is talking BS when they say you can’t tell if someone has HIV by looking at the lymphocyte percentage on a blood count especially if it was 65 percent for example it strikes me most doctors haven’t managed to grasp the most elementary parts of their education.
PS If any one atributes my symptoms to stress I will devote the rest of my life hunting them down.
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Sir;
Hiv infection will lower the lymphocyte percentage not raise it.
45% is a good sign. What is your absolute cd4 count?
Please dont hunt me down I am just trying to help. I too am stressed about testing falsely negative.
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I am very glad one can get a medical degree and be there own doctor from reading on line. Maybe those of us that spent eight years in college did it all wrong. The blood work changes with many different conditions; HIV is not the culprit in your case with all of the testing you have already taken. Maybe since you have deemed yourself a doctor on line maybe you can make up your own strain of the disease also, one that is all your own and in your head even though you have tested negative beyond the conclusive amount of time. I really hope you are happy with your self-diagnosis and I wish you the best of luck.
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You cannot tell HIV infection from a CBC. Period. That is a simple simple fact.
Only an HIV test can tell that. Your lymphocyte count says nothing.
THAT is from a hemotologist.
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G-man Bill,
Truthfully, there is a lot more information readilly available on this board than you learned in 8 years of school. I have read a lot of your posts and I do realize that your intentions are good, but I also know that you have no idea what you are talking about. Do consider that you are offering advise, claiming to be a proffesional, about a topic that you dont know.
The saddest part about this is that you have this disease. You have no clue about it. God help you.
The best thing that you could do and I am not trying to be rude because I did mention earlier about how I felt that your intentions were good is to stop posting advise and ask questions to help yourself with this illness.
I know that I can help you live a better, longer and healthier life. Please think about this.
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Low TLC can be correlated to low CD4 count if one has HIV, Never heard about the high % ...
Several groups described the use of total lymphocyte count (TLC) as a replacement for CD4+ cell count in untreated patients, and Robin Wood's group in Cape Town, South Africa, also described the use of TLC to monitor highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART).[5] This group has previously shown that a TLC < 1250 cells/mm3 correlates well with a CD4+ cell count < 200 cells/mm3.[6] In their new report on 266 patients each evaluated at 5 time points, they described a significant correlation between all the pairs of changes in TLC and changes in CD4+ cell count (R = 0.61; P < .01). Jacobson and colleagues[7] at the University of California, San Francisco, compared the sensitivity and specificity of the absolute lymphocyte count (ALC) and the TLC, here defined as ALC plus large lymphocytes. They selected 1 pair of results from 2044 patients and generated Receiver Operator Characteristic Curves. An ALC < 1750 cells/mm3 and a TLC < 1900 cells/mm3 had maximal sensitivity of 74% and specificity of 73% as predictors of a CD4+ cell count < 350 cells/mm3.
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