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Fingering
#90968 - 03/02/04 10:11 AM
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Hi there. Im new to the forum and waiting on an answer in the other board from Doctor Bob or Calvin. I have been tested for HIV 3 times the past two years. My most recent negative was december. Since then, i have fingered 3 girls and am wondering if i am seriously in need of another test. I did not notice cuts or scrapes on the fingers. Just worried. i worry all the time about it. My doctor wouldn't give me PEP and the ER wouldn't either the day i fingered the last girl.
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PEP is only given to people who have had significant exposures. Of course they wouldn't give it to you because you are not at any risk for HIV. The only risk would be if you had an openly bleeding cut on your finger at the time you did the fingering. You don't even need another test.
Why be worried? HIV is transmitted one of three ways:
1.) Unprotected receptive or insertive anal & vaginal sex, and (rarely) unprotected receptive oral sex.
2.) Blood to blood contact either through needlestick exposure or occupational exposure.
3.) Mother to infant
Since your activity doesn't fall into any one of these categories, you are not at risk for HIV infection.
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I do not know what to think about the youth of this day and age, even many of the adults that post here. After over twenty years of this disease and over ten years of HIV/AIDS education in schools people still, do not know how this disease is contracted. I guess the people think it can be spread easily still.
There has been information in the newspapers, most students have had to read about this disease and take classes like Health Education. It still seems like more and more people do not know anything about HIV/AIDS and how it is contracted, let alone how hard it to actually catch. Maybe instead of just asking if you have contracted it via a low risk encounter maybe some people should do a little reading about how this disease is spread. It is almost as the people who are on here regularly are being used as an easy answer instead of the people doing some reading or research on there own.
I have been on this board for many years now, it seems like the people that are asking if they are infected are asking about lower and lower risk encounters. Like they didn't get this taught to them in every grade from sixth up in the USA, they get some form of HIV education every year through there college years.
If any of the other long-term posters feel like I do about this, please speak up. It is bad enough that we have to put up with un-educated dissidents, but the general population of the world should know more about this disease by now.
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Bill,
I apologize for being ignorant. Its just i am worried here. I know its low risk but i just don't know how low. Its hard to find stats on it and theres a lot of site on the internet that say its very risk.
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How about it is NO RISK more than low risk, even with a fresh cut on your finger. You would have to slice it open and put it in less than three seconds because it is still not a mucus membrane. The other party would be the one that would and should be the worried one if you did something like that.
In addition, you said you were both virgins, wouldn't that mean that a sexually transmitted disease would or could not have been transmitted. How sure are you that you are clean of all sexually transmitted diseases before you started playing around?
Where were you when they were teaching you about this in school?
In addition, when we say LOW RISK on this board most of us mean basically NO RISK.
Now let us put this in prospective.
1. Was there blood-to-blood open wound transfer of fluids or the sharing of needles? (Blood to blood would mean an open wound in to an open wound and not a little cut the skin bleeds before the cut is deep enough to be considered a wound. shaving cuts etc. seal enough to be a barrier in about a minute so small cuts are no danger)
2. Was there fluid transfer via mucous membranes as in vaginal or anal sex without a condom insertive or receptive? (Which fingering is not actually considered)
3. Was this from a mother to an infant?
Now that you know the ways it is transmitted maybe you will attempt to learn a bit more. It is not an easy disease to catch, actually it is very hard to catch and impossible if you use safe practices.
I hope this helps.
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Hi Fingering;
If you became HIV+ from only fingering, my HIV- husband of 16 years would like to know how that happened. He has been fingering me, among other things, for the whole time we have been together, and guess what, he is still HIV-.
'nuff said.
Peace.
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Yours;
Tim
"Living Positive Since '83"
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Hey there Gman. Yeah, it does get frustrating sometimes, you're not alone. I worry about what is and what isn't being taught in school about HIV and other STIs. It seems like nothing is being taught, that's really scary. Based on some of the questions I've been seeing, Health Education is just as it was when I was in school.
What do you think we could do to change that? I would love any ideas you have because something has to be done about it, I'm just not sure where to start. In this day and age, there is no excuse for lack of HIV knowledge, but if it's not taught in schools or by parents, how are kids to know?
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Hi,
i would just like to add some comforts to the first posting. i had been involved in same activitiy which mine is with a small cut ( skin peeled off 3 hours earlier at index finger 1*2 mm and 75-80% heaing ) . Tested 89 and 98 days with 1 minute self test kit ( in-vitro) and Elisa test negative. i am not sure if i am 100% safe now but if the 3 months window period is definite/conclusive ( Anyone like to add on this window period debate ? ) then i would feel more relax and plan to move on. The lesson i got from this ordeal is life is fragile and treat life at the best it can be and enjoy it. Play safe and think about the people around you who cares for you everytime you about to risk yourself and protect yourself always .
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