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6 MONTH WINDOW PERIOD, NO MORE?
      #8460 - 08/16/00 12:11 PM

Hi. From basically ALL the post Ive read recently, it seems that everyone agree that a negative test at 12 weeks (that is, 3 months) will be considered enough and conclusive, right? Everyone seems to agree on that.
BUT, what about all the stuff serious organizations like the CDC, Dr. Gallant and Dr. Feinberg, for instance, say about the 6 months window period.
They all say, sure, a 12 week is a good sign, BUT HEY, it is NOT CONCLUSIVE. One can think that with a 12 week negative test he/she would be in the CLEAR but he/she could BE INFECTED and not know about it all because he/she didnt take the test at 6 months.
IF 3 MONTHS OR 12 WEEKS WERE TO BE CONCLUSIVE, WHY MANY DOCTORS AND THE CDC (A SERIOUS ORGANIZATION) STILL SAY 6 MONTHS?



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Re: 6 MONTH WINDOW PERIOD, NO MORE? new
      #8465 - 08/16/00 12:56 PM

Take your point but then why would European Health Authorities say 3 months? Are they not serious? Is HIV different in the USA? I don't think so. The CDC are just covering themselves for the tiny amount of cases that present with HIV after the 3 month period.



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Re: 6 MONTH WINDOW PERIOD, NO MORE? new
      #8468 - 08/16/00 01:40 PM

The CDC's and the other doctors you mentioned say six months because they are basing it on the most common test used in the United States, The ELISA generation 1 test. This is the test that is used used in most of the free clinics, and this is the test that is used by Home Access.

For a later generation ELISA test, the window is a recommended 3 months, but like I said, this is not the generation used by most free clinics, or the Home Access.
That is why the CDC and alot of doctors still say six months. They are counting for the majority of the tests out there.

And so I have a little less than 2 months until my 6 month window period is up...



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Re: 6 MONTH WINDOW PERIOD, NO MORE? new
      #8478 - 08/16/00 05:00 PM

6 months does 2 things.... it covers up for promiscuous people that have many sexual partners and cant truly recall their last encounter (remember that in order to know for sure, your window has to be based on the last statistical risk which many people cant remember). They get freaked out when a symptom shows up whereas most of the people on this board tend to freak out the day after they have the encounter.

3 months catches amost all (95-99%) of people as long as the test was done in a paid professional setting (doctor's office, lab, or hospital). It probably doesnt cut it if you used a mail in service or a free clinic - but even those are supposed to be 90% accurate at 3 months and 99 at 6 months.



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Live with the possibility? new
      #8483 - 08/16/00 06:27 PM

So, at 3 months, no matter what test it is used, one have to live with the possibility of 1% that he/she may be infected? Wouldnt it be better to wait till 6 months to be 100% sure instead of 99% sure?



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Re: Live with the possibility? new
      #8494 - 08/16/00 10:39 PM

You will never get to 100%....no matter how long...there will always be the outliers that have to be accounted for.

I'm willing to take my 99% and live my life fully with it.

Obsessing over a 1% chance that a 3% risk for a single unprotected sex encounter will come true is ridiculous (do the math... .01 times .03 is what?) .0003 I can live with those odds!



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Re: 6 MONTH WINDOW PERIOD, NO MORE? new
      #8521 - 08/17/00 01:22 PM

I don't necessarily agree with your statistic of 90%. First generation tests are very sensative these days. They have been amplified through recent technology. Later generation tests are more accurate in seeking early infection, within the first several weeks.

A first generation test at 12 weeks is as sensative as a 2nd or 3rd generation test at that time.



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