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Anonymous
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Female to male transmission and visa versa
      #46258 - 12/02/02 11:17 PM

When they say there is a very small chance for men to get HIV from a woman sexually, this means when the woman HAS HIV.

For women, they can get HIV from males sexually (vaginal) extremely easy, it can be one chance in one! Some women do not catch hiv easy and some do. Reasons may be bearing children, endometrial biopsies, low estrogen, thin mucosa, herpes, menstrual blood. In Africa, recent study showed that at one-year, 80% of women were infected by their HIV husbands. The other 20%, some of them may have taken preations, who knows.



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Kim
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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46334 - 12/03/02 10:11 AM

Male to female transmission happens 8 time more than vice versa. For obvious reasons. More fluid enters the female during sex making infection easier. It is still extremely rare for infection to happen on a 1 time basis. Studies in African couples actually showed over a perdiod of time the infection rate to females was not quite 80% it was more like 50 or 60% over a period of several months. You are right though menstral blood increases the odds. It has also been shown that uncircumcised men have a greater risk because of the mucus membrane in the foreskin allowing the virus to enter.



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46338 - 12/03/02 10:29 AM

How much higher is the risk for an uncircumsized male?



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46345 - 12/03/02 12:53 PM

NO NO!! Male to female transmission happens drastically-more than femlae to male which is rare. Females fluids have little to zero hiv. Male semen has great quanities.
It's not rare for females to get infected the first time having sex with hiv male!!!!!! This has been proven finally, in fact it's easy. For some women it takes awhile. This is proved with recent studies at one week to several (4 5o 5) month intervals. Mucous membrane is not in foreskin, it's the same skin as the rest of the penis!



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46346 - 12/03/02 12:54 PM

Scientist do not really know yet IF uncircumsized males are at ANY increased risk, stay tuned.



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46354 - 12/03/02 01:59 PM

HIV is a very, very difficult disease to contract regardless if you are a man or woman.

According to Dr.Bob on the Fatigue forum:
The CDC estimates the risk for HIV transmission per episode of receptive penile-anal sexual intercourse to be 0.1 to 3 percent. This is considered to be the riskiest type of exposure. The risk per episode of receptive vaginal intercourse is estimated at 0.1 percent to 0.2 percent. These figures are generally much lower than what the general population is aware of; however, these risks are real and significant. The take-home message is that even though it is possible (even likely) that an episode of sex with an HIV-positive person will not result in transmission of the virus, there is indeed some risk, and safer sexual techniques are definitely recommended. The World Health Organization estimates that there are 14,000 new HIV infections worldwide each and every day.




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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46363 - 12/03/02 04:04 PM

Not true people! Those are wrong numbers unfortunately since no one really knows percentages, so had been a lot of past guessing by experts on transmission percentages, which turned out to be wrong. Actually vaginal sex is quite a bit more efficient to transmit hiv to women, than is anal sex. Women beware, it always happens with a single sex act, so it can and does happen often with one vaginal sex act. Recent studies from Africa were surprising to experts and proved that women get hiv far easier than previously thought! Most got HIV within the first year through regular intercourse, and this was by their hiv husbands! Women beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46366 - 12/03/02 04:16 PM

From the Safe Sex & HIV Prevention Forum

There are several like this. All you need to do is type in Africa or 500 or Study in Africa in the search bar after going to the Forum. I agree with Kim, while HIV is easier for women to get then men, one time only is a little high. I remember once a poster said his HIV specialist felt that HIV was more often transmitted from several unprotected acts in a short time frame than it was from any one time occurrence except for IV drug use. From reading posts on this board for several years I’m incline to believe that. I’ve seen several instances where man or woman has posted that they found out that their b/f, g/f, spouse was infected and they still tested negative after having repeated unprotected exposures.

That's not to say I don't think people shouldn't use protection. I've liken it before to drinking and driving on back country roads. The odds of getting caught are not very great, but the more you do it, the higher the odds are that you will get caught. Once again it's that repeated exposure that can get you. It increases your odds of getting caught.

Women more likely to get infected?
Posted: Jul 30, 2001

HI. I know that unprotected sex is high-risk behavior on the part of both men and women but, is it true that women are much more likely to get infected over men when having unprotected sex?

Your question is not a simple one to answer since there are so many variables that are involved in transmission. In general, the receptive partner in vaginal or anal sex is considered to be at greater risk for infection with HIV than the insertive partner. This does not mean that women are biologically more prone to infection than men. This has more to do with the areas of the body that are exposed to fluids. The vagina and rectum are both warm cavities in the body in which fluids can be deposited (increasing the time of exposure to infected fluids) and may be prone to microscopic tears that can increase the risk for infection. The man's urethra (the tube he pees out of) is the primary location for infection during penetrative sex. There is a much larger surface area for exposure in the vagina and rectum when compared to the small opening at the head of the penis. This transmission dynamic is supported by statisitcs of transmission in the United States. The main modes of sexual transmission are through receptive vaginal and anal sex.

Studies of transmission in Africa seem to contradict this long-held assumption. For many years, reseachers have identified that men were much more likely to be infected thorough insertive sex than men in the United States. Recent studies confirm that the likelihood of male-female transmission is about the same as female-male. It is believed that certain factors, such as the man being uncircumcised, may put him at higher risk for infection than his circumcised counterparts. The presence of genital STD's among men in Africa may also increase their risk for infection. There is also the obvious fact that heterosexual men in Africa are much more likely to have sexual contact with an HIV infected woman than heterosexual men in the United States, increasing their odds for exposure significantly.

All of these factors have some influence in HIV transmission. More needs to be and will be learned about the biology of transmission in the near future

RMK





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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46371 - 12/03/02 05:28 PM

You say HIV is a very very difficult disease to contract regardless if you are a man or women. Who are you to say something this untrue and dangerous?! It is easy for women to contract HIV from men.



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Why Jackie? new
      #46393 - 12/03/02 06:54 PM

why are heterosexual men in Africa much more likely to have sex with an HIV woman than heterosexual men in the USA?



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Re: Why Jackie? new
      #46409 - 12/03/02 09:20 PM

The reason is because the number of women infected in Africa is greater than the number of women infected in the US. Thus increasing the chance of a man having sex with a HIV+ woman.

However the rate of infection for women in the US has been increasing at a greater rate than before over the last year or so.



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46449 - 12/04/02 10:58 AM

I've been on this forum for about a year months now and have read a lot of different articles from various sites including this one. I am not a dissident. I do know that HIV is a deadly disease but it can be prevented and it is not easy to contract. From reading many articles, speaking to many health care professionals I have a better understanding of this disease and how it is transmitted. While women are at greater risk for contracting HIV than a hetero male they are still at lower risk than a gay male who is the receptive partner. The reason behind that is HIV is transmitted when infected fluids come in contact with your bloodstream. It is understood that during anal sex there is a higher risk for the receptive partner to bleed and therefor if HIV comes in contact with the bloodstream transmission is likely to occur. During unprotected vaginal sex, if the woman comes in contact with infected fluid transmission is also likely but it is not a 100% guarantee. While it only takes one exposure to become infected it takes a certain amount of infected fluid for a person to become infected. It also depends on the infected person's viral load and the uninfected person's immune system.
There are thousands of serodiscordant couples who have been together for many, many years and yet the uninfected partner remains uninfected.



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Re: Female to male transmission and visa versa new
      #46467 - 12/04/02 02:01 PM

There are *more* homosexual partners where one stayed virus free for several years, than there are women who stayed virus free for several years. This was not known until some *recent* studies done in Africa on women. Bleeding does not always occur in anal sex, but fluids are always there in unprotected vaginal sex...plenty enough to infect with each act. There are varying conditions in the female vagina and cervix that promote infection and inhibit infection. Child birth tends to promote it, also a female's immunity is down the second half of her cycle, not the first half. Varying conditions make some females resistant and some extremely infectable.



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