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#42436 - 10/26/02 02:54 PM
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Hi all. I have read your responses to my posts. Mixed emotion huh. Yes it is quite hard to swallow but I promise you it is true. Like i said They had to send my labs out for diagnosis and I will indeed find out exactly where they sent them to. I couldnt believe it myself.
My labs were cd4 were around 700 50% cd8 413 27% ratio 1.7.
I will try to answer questions to you all but for giving out my doctors name i dont that that would be a great idea on a public forum right? I dont know who you all are and to the ones who cant believe what i am saying why would someone make up HIV? I know I personally would have alot more to do than this unfortunately it is my life now. This virus is in my body and indeed was negative on all tests known to you and the public. I am as confused as you if not more b/c I am the one going through this and I would gladly trade places with any of you right now. So if you dont believe me then I cant help you. My specialist told me also that my VL is probably very high b/c of my extreme symptoms and severity of them. I came here for support and help and maybe meet others in my situation not to be ridiculed. I also wanted to educate others that HIV does exsist outside the elisa I couldnt believe it either but yes it is true. I promise you will be hearing about it very soon for I am going to psh for public announcement to make this known and try to make changes in these tests for if we cant trust them then why take them? I have lost faith in them. But like my doctor told me, If oyu have 1,000 people and 1 or 2 dont show on the test then it will take time to fix. I asked her then those 1 or 2 multiplies onto 100 then what?
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If your purpose is to get support because you are infected and not indulge in some hoax why do you keep posting on this board? You say you know you are infected, so why not one of the boards for infected people. People here only think they might be infected.
Your story is too pat and well timed. It fits in so well with the threads that are being posted recently. People worried about strains that can't be picked up. Then Bam, here you are posting saying you have an undectectable strain saying you are looking for support. So why not post to one of the many boards on this web site that would be helpful to you.
You don't answer joe and then after someone else points out to joe that it would be foolish for you to email your doctors information to him, suddenly you post with the exact same excuse for not validating your claim. Lucky someone gave you a good excuse. Funny you don't know some of the answers people ask you, but will answer in the near future. Why can't you answer now? It's questions about your testing. You were there for it weren't you? Need more time to do some research so that your story might have some ring of truth?
When I see your story in the medical journals I'll believe it, not before then.
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FU loser, get a life you dont believe anything. Finaaly someone validates your fears and you dont believe your a stupid fag. go find you a big fat hairy nasty black asshoe to stick your small dick in, then go and suck that bif hairy nasty black cock. Your a fag its what you people do you loser asswipe. Leave people alone if he has HIV then thank him for sharing his story not trashing him. YOur a stupid faggot i wish i could see your flaming ass and teach you a lesson in person on how to treat others. Fag or not I would teach you manners you sissy fag boy. Go out now and suck your black cock!
Fags are stupid and deserve what they get
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what country do you live in?
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Dear Will,
my last try. please read this:
1. I have not asked to post your doc's phone-nr *in public*, i just asked you if you can connect to me via private email (joe_hivtest@yahoo.com) to *help* me. In case you really want to help me, you would give me (or my doc) the chance to connect to your doc.
I can't trust you or your information until it is verfied. A doctor's phone number is by no means "private data"!? Your doc would not give away your name when my doc would call her. She just would inform him about the "new strain-case". Why do you have a problem with that?
2. you say "...I am going to push for public announcement to make this known" --- yea but you refuse to provide even basic info. anyway you say your doc is getting popular among her ID-collegues because of your case. Well if that is the case, your case will be published sooner as you think, so there is no need for you to "educate the public", especially not on a forum with lots of anxious people.
joe
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...and santa claus is real...
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and here is the proof:
1. he says he HAS NEVER POSTED before (he wrote: "This is my first time posting here so I don't know what to expect. I got this website from my counselor yesterday evening").
Now that is obviously NOT TRUE! In fact this guy posted as Anonymous on 10/17/02 05:56 PM the thread "G-Man answer pleae sir", telling his story (ulcer 2 inches in moth, rash on forhead, even CD4 counts where the same as in "Williams First posting").
So why should i trust a posting which start right on WITH A LIE ?
(here is the older message i am referring to:
http://www.thebody.com/cgi-bin/bbs/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=infected&Number=42020&Search=true&Forum=infected&Words=ulcer inch&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=3months)
2. he says he wants to "help" people in similar positions. The first step to do so is to exchange doctor's addresses via private mail. A very common procedure in mediacal research. But he refuses to do so. This is very untypical for HIV+ people, because they are normally very helpful + generous. If he fears about his privacy he could use an anonymous email account and his doctor would NEVER give away personal data (only the essential medical data!)
3. in his poster to gman he stated: "Should I do a viral culture?" Sounds like an very active patient who tries to be on top of things
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But in his last mail he stated "...and they ran a test i think called a P.E.R.T test on me i dont even know where they sent it too" - Why so passive? Why does he just *think* its a PERT test when he was where very aware of PERT testing some weeks ago.
4. in his first post he mentioned positive Wester Blot tests - he did not mention that in his recent post. Why? because it did not fit to his "new strain" story he wants to spread
5. his first post involoving PERT/V.C came 1 week after my posting where i mentioned PERT/V.C.
6. his second post involoving PERT/V.C (where he posted as "William") came 1 week after John posted some info about this topic.
7. his doc would not be so stupid to diagnose him with HIV after a pos PERT test. She would first rules out all other Retroviruses (HepC, HTLV, etc.) He would be aware of that if it would be a true story.
8. he uses the same wording as some posts of "Anonymous". (Anon: i will not say wich words and phrases, to make sure i can identify you in future postings, too)
joe
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Good work Joe.
He's posted much more than that one. He's been posting for months. Do a search on positive WB. He been insisting he's got some strain no one can find. Now he makes up a story just like how he wants things to turn out. He wants HIV so bad so he can prove all those specialist he's seen wrong.
He's probably been the one that's been trying to discredit you and saying you are like john in london.
I guess he got mad at the board because he didn't get any answers different then the ones his doctors gave him which is that he's negative and decided to make every ones worst nightmare come true. Pretty sad. What a loser.
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yea... he is a very sore loser. very very sick and nasty. it is rare to find such sick minds, even on the internet.
btw. yes he tried to discredit me (telling i am a danger for society etc.) but i really dont mind at all if he compares me to John_in_London, because John is really a clever and funny guy. Indee, John was among the very first who figured out that this is a fake.
regards,
joe
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i was kind of worried when i read his first post - but in light of this...
the story just doesn't hold water. if there is some reason this person wants to freak the [censored] out of everyone, well, that i don't get.. if they really do want to offer a true account - i don't see what the issue would be sharing a bit more information so other people on the board can have some piece of mind.. afterall, the internet is full of all kinds of truths and lies, and its up to the person reading it to sort them out.. and this can only be done with a little more info then Will provided.
its unfortunate, but that's the way it is.. so, Will, if you really are legit, i am truly sorry to here about your diagnosis (i really mean that) - you would be doing everyone on this board a great favor if you could give some details that would clear up any doubt.
this is everyone's worst nightmare..
thanks
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