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Extremely
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To the "original six" /"dirty dozen"
      #39007 - 08/29/02 06:15 AM

Hey unlucky, notanonymous, John in London, uhoh, anonymous123, une_fille! How are you all going? I have now tested negative to 22 weeks and have a 24 week result waiting for me that I have to collect but which I guess I now expect will be negative. I suppose I no longer think that after testing negative by proviral dna at 9 weeks and by ELISA for hiv 1&2 at 9,12, 16.5 and 22 weeks that I will suddenly turn positive. I'm also negative for Hep A,B & C at 24 weeks. Thanks for all your support and also to KitG and everyone else on the board who has taken the time to respond to my and for that matter other people's worries. I'm going back to work after 6 months of pseudo-hiv hell and am moving on. I'll still post and try to help others as I know what a big help all the support I received on this board was to me.



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Unlucky
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Re: To the "original six" /"dirty dozen" new
      #39015 - 08/29/02 12:03 PM

Hey Extremely
Ive been keeing a record of the Original Dozen So far lookslike this
Uhoh -
Extremely-
Anon123 -
Notanymous -
Unefile -
Geop -
FC Neg -
Still Guessing -
Peter ?
Paul ?
John in London ?
Confused ?
As for me Im still freaking out. I hope I don,t live up to my name. Most of my symptoms have gone except I have an extremly dry mouth, with a white coating on it I bough a scraper. When I scrape it a thick mucus comes off. I never had this before. The next morning its back. Have to wake up 3 time a nigt to get water. My wife, throat never really got better, She had had Bad sore throat in Dec with thick mucus, that lasted 3 months. She also had terrible vivid nightmares, headaches, and irregular bleeding. She was also dizzy for a week every morning when she woke up. I dont know what to do. She dosn,t know so It cant be stress.
Id have to be pretty Unlucky though for it to be Hiv if you remember my only exposure was kissng a girl who I later found out has and STD either Gonnorea or Clymidia. She also had a negative HIV Test at 6-7 months after she got the original STD with EIA HIV1 at Labcorp. My theory was that because she had the STD orally also it somehow transmitted it with HiV to me. Pretty far out I know but the symptoms were very real, and my wife too.
Best of luck on your latest test
Unlucky



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uhohblita
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"original six" /"dirty dozen" pics inside! new
      #39059 - 08/29/02 10:56 PM

here it is!


okay come on i know at least somebody thought i was going to be showing myself off again! haha. thats a pic of my car after the numbnuts was driving the wrong way and wham. so ive been recovering from that cuz i had concusion, amnesia, the whole works.

as far as HIV goes, i must admit many times i fall back into the HIV spell and start wondering. mostly i think this is because of the girl i was with i really have doubts about her and some of the things she did/said that makes me very suspicious. as far as symptoms, many of them subsided. the roof of my mouth is still white as snow. my right side still hurts. and im fatigued. thats about it. the worst thing is i feel like i have the energy and motivation of a 70 year old and im only 25.

unlucky- cool idea keeping the list thanks. i didnt know your exposure was from a kiss. I would definately have it if that was the case LOL. although sometimes i do think there is something out there transmitted easier.

extremely- youre right it most definately is hell but jeez think about it you made it through alive. i have no doubt you will remain neg. good luck going back to work hopefully it will help you concentrate on other things.

overall im probably just as confused and ww about HIV/testing/symptoms as the day i found this place, but trying to live for each day and not obsess so much about it. things will fall into place i hope. right now i try and just think Im glad to be alive!

-uhoh



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Jackie_Blue
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You have GOT to be kidding new
      #39062 - 08/29/02 11:48 PM

Ok, Ok. I know I'm probably going to get flamed for being outspoken tonight. BUT....

So many post, so much information, sometimes I miss stuff....

Unlucky,

Do you mean to say you have seriously been worried about HIV infection from a DAMN kiss??????!!!!!!!

Talk about throwing precious time away. There is no way you got HIV from a kiss. Other STD's included or not. You are right. That theory is pretty far fetched.

As far as your wife. Gee none of it sounds like HIV... the sore throat and mucuos sounds like allergies. (why does everyone think extended sore throats are due to HIV?)

Of course irregular bleeding for a woman doesn't mean that much. Most of us do that from time to time. It's very easy to throw off a woman and her cycle. You are probably the cause of that also...and the dreams. I'm sure your wife is picking up signals from you that something is wrong, she probably has spent a lot of time wondering what is wrong. Is it her? Did you find someone else? Is the marriage on the rocks? Why is he behaving so different? So distant??? You may think you are successfully hiding this from her, but please, people do pick up signals, and since you aren't being straight with her, she probably thinks it has something to do with her. I could see where a lot of her symptoms are due to stress. Stress is stress. It's going to come out in physical ways. It doesn't matter what the cause of the stress is. So here you are thinking she has HIV symptoms and actually it's probably all due to stress, because you haven't been straight with her and she's wondering what's wrong.

Now look at the facts. First you don't get HIV from a kiss. Add the icing on the cake...this other woman tested negative. She doesn't have HIV, so how the hell can she pass on to you what she doesn't have?

Let's look at your list of WW's.

Uhoh - Seems to me he's moving on.
Extremely- From his post today, it sounds like he's ready to move on.
Anon123 - Haven't heard from in a while, must have moved on.
Notanymous - I know he's past this from the last message he sent me.
Unefile - Haven't heard from in a while
Geop - Long time gone
FC Neg - Just like the name says
Still Guessing - Been gone so long, don't even remember him.
Peter ? Don't know him either
Paul ? Must be with Mary
John in London - Please. The classic candidate for the nut house
Confused? Guess he's moving forward also.

Unlucky you are rapidly becoming the lone holdout. The last to believe his test. You are also the one with the LEAST reason to have tested in the first place. Kissing someone is not a reason to test.

It's time you follow their lead and try and get your life back together.



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Extremely
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Re: To the "original six" /"dirty dozen" new
      #39079 - 08/30/02 06:56 AM

Thanks unlucky/Jackie/uh-oh.

Unlucky, we have had similar symptoms and it sounds like you have had the low lymphocyte count problem as well. We definitely got some virus but I think we can both feel more confident that it is not hiv. Mind you, it is amazing how coincidental some of this stuff is!

Uh-oh, after seeing the state of your car, that armpit doesn't look so bad after all. :=)



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notanonymous
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Congrats to ExtremelyLucky! and a note to unlucky. new
      #39082 - 08/30/02 11:16 AM

hey fellow dirties, yes, as jackie said, i have accepted my NEG and really don't worry over it too much anymore. i never thought the 3 months would be over and now i'm almost at the 6 month mark. my last test was a neg at about 20-22 weeks and it was a 3rd gen. 1/2 test, for those that take that into consideration like myself. ongoing symptoms? yeah, i got em, not even worth talking about because i firmly beLIEve (hehe) that they are not HIV-related at this point.

extremely, i am happy for you that you are willing to accept your results, i know you pretty much knew it from your previous test, but the 22 week results will seal the deal. they pretty much did for me. i'm not sure if i will test again at or after 6 months, probably will, but not sure. with my bad luck, although i feel a lot luckier these days, i would get a false positive and go off the deep end. we'll see.

unlucky, you're not that unlucky, man. come on, you need a good slap in the face (with love of course). like jackie said, like you have heard and read a thousand times, you don't get it from kissing. regardless of whatever STD's might be present or whatever theory you might conjure up in your head. think about all of the kissing that goes on worldwide everyday, especially friday and saturday nights and first-time hook-ups and people in Africa, China, Russia, England, where-ever, with or without STD's, which would be a lot more prevalant in third world countries, and only one documented case of transmission by kissing which has sketchy details about previous protection and involved major oral surgery and profuse bleeding (yuck). all of this kissing going on, bad oral hygiene, drug-users, gays, whatever the scenario, even with herpes, chlamydia, gonnerhea, thrush or any other combination of STD's in the mouth, it hasn't, doesn't, won't happen anytime soon. do you get my point? get ahold of yourself. please. stop dragging this thing out longer than it has to be. how is it helping you in any way? i freaked out on my wife's symptoms too, but now, in retrospect, just like my "symptoms" they have other causes and mostly due to the fact that you are paying so much attention to them. a couple of years ago, you probably wouldn't even have half listened to your wife when she was complaining of this or that with her body. i'll bet you are asking her questions about them all the time? i did. luckily, my wife is nowhere close to being a hypochondriac, so she didn't feed off of my little game. what if your wife is feeding off of your concerns about her health, i could see that happening. you are making her pay attention to all the little things we most often ignore. and what jackie said is true about your relationship, it is sufferring i'm sure, like she said, stress is stress and it will show up. it is easy to get all inside your head and let these things control you, but you have to change it. you have to convince yourself, you can do it. you're not some medical mystery. maybe you did get some virus, there's only hundreds of them, so what? your body fought it off and won! have you seen a counselor before? you really should. i strongly feel that some type of anti-depressant/anxiety/OCD drug would probably help, like zoloft, if you don't already take something like that. it really helped me a lot. helped me not to obsess about it so much. you wouldn't have to take it the rest of your life, just long enough to help you heal your brain, because that is where your problem is, IMO. heal your brain, and your body and your wife's will follow. i used to look in the mirror and see death, now i see health and i feel that way for the most part. people have weird ailments and funky [censored] going on with their bodies all the time, often that a doctor can't even diagnose or find a true cause, definitely more often than not, it has nothing to do with HIV. symptoms are treated and eventually clear up on their own. sorry to be so long-winded, but i just want to get through to you if i can because i hate to see you do this to yourself and your family, plus the fact that i don't know when to shut up. WAKE UP! give it a rest and think about something else. search this forum and look back at posts from kitg and paulb i think his name was. they had many many symptoms and were convinced and they finally came to grips with the fact that the results showed the same thing since the first test........NEG. and it will eventually happen to you too, it is your choice how long it takes for it to happen. you have nothing to loose if you drop it at this point except happiness and time. and you really never know how much time you have left, don't spend it worrying about this. take care unlucky, and everyone else. unlucky, one more thing, you do know that people not infected have actually had unprotected sexual intercourse, even anal, many many times with a person infected and still have come out negative in the end? those people are really lucky, and you are not that unlucky!



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