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Kevin
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Regarding 12 months testing
      #35605 - 06/12/02 05:50 PM

John and to whom it may concern,

Firstly, for the record I did not post anything since the last entry under my name. You say that you have been told by a doctor to test to 12 months, is that correct? The reply from the doctor that you have attached to the mail mentions nothing about testing to 12 months. Why would the CDC say that testing at 6 months is conclusive!? Do you think that they are trying to appease us? I don't think so. They don't say 6 months just to make us happy! In fact the window period used to be 12 months according to the CDC, but it was lowered as no one was testing + beyond 6 months. In fact no one in Europe has taken longer than 3 months to serconvert. In Sweden the Window Period is down to 10 weeks. So do you honestly think that they are saying that just to relieve people's anxieties, the answer is NO. If they thought that the window period should be longer they would say so. Do you honestly believe that all the professors of medicine with over 20 years of experience in this field would let someone walk around thinking they were -ve if they thought for a split second they were not!?
Millions of people every year test for HIV at 3 and 6 months and go on to live happy care free lives never being effected by it. So why are we here? I'm here because I have OCD and thats why I've gone through such aggressive testing to 8 months, thats a long time to have HIV and still be undiagnosed, the reason I'm undiagnosed is because I don't have it. I've seeked and found solid information from a host of doctors with specific interest in this field all saying the same thing, after 3 months you can forget about HIV! I've spoken with several doctors who themselves have recieved needle stick exposures to HIV, they tested -ve at 3 months and forgot about it! I've met face to face with an Immunologist/HIV specialist who works with CDC and he has told me that 6 months is definitive. I asked him about delayed seroconversion after 6 months and he told me it's either a screwed up lab test or the person is lying! John the CDC mention 2 cases of delayed seroconversion ever, one was due to a coinfection with Hep C and the other was an immune disorder where the person was unable to produce antibodies. This only happened 2 time out of all the millions of people that have been tested! What college in the UK is your source affiliated with? Anyway draw your own conclusions and sorry for coming down so hard! It's a though time for everyone.

Regards,

Kevin



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confused
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35607 - 06/12/02 06:10 PM

Kevin what is ocd,You mentioned that one person had delayed antibody's because of hepc co-infection,There must be alot more cases of co- infection did they say why that one was different.



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Kevin
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35608 - 06/12/02 06:23 PM

OCD stands for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Most of the people on this forum have it wether they admit it or not. It basically means that I continue to seek reassurance that I am HIV Negative despite overwhelming evidence that says so. There was one case of delayed seroconversion due to a complication with a coinfection with Hep C. This was a needle stick exposure which they think may have complicated matters. It's pretty much unexplained and is something that has never happened since, it does'nt warrent thinking about nor inclusion in the statistics. In fact the Immunoligist that I spoke to talked about this case and says that it has been challenged and they thing that it was a lab error. The CDC says that this was a freak occurance and has not happened since. So don't get your pants in a twist over it, it means nothing. Thousands upon thousands of people with Hep C coninfections have since tested positive within the 3 month window period.

God Bless



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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35610 - 06/12/02 06:46 PM

Thanks Kevin,Well i guess i got OCD to.Ive tested neg at 6 months and i would find it alot easer to believe if i didn't have all these ongoing symptoms. all the best to you.



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Kevin
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35612 - 06/12/02 07:19 PM

Your symptoms are most likely attributed to the stress that you are experiencing. When severe stress and compulsive worrying hit hard, the symptoms can be very intense, believe me I had everything, but I always new my symptoms were stress related. If you have tested -ve at 6 months you can quite comfortably move on with your life. The testing thats done nowadays can catch people at 4 weeks. 6 months is a hell of a long time to go undiagnosed with something as severe as HIV, think about it. The reason you test -ve at 6 months is because you don't have HIV and if your doctor thought for a second that you did he would tell you.



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JAY
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35627 - 06/12/02 09:23 PM

Not trying to scare you but their are around 55 cases of delayed seroconversions in the last 12 years. I dont think it happens that often anymore. But considering that only hundreds of people have been studied to determine the window period we cant really know if it still happens today. The CDC are talking about people who NEVER even developed antibodys. There were only two.



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Kevin
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35631 - 06/12/02 10:36 PM

Where did you get this information. Is it related to the US alone or worldwide?



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Anonymous
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35632 - 06/12/02 11:17 PM

You had everything? You did not mention that you ever had swollen nodes. What about severly swollen nodes and the cause is unknown after checking out with a Dr. any "other" possible causes. Swollen nodes in the mind too? I tested at six months negative. These nodes developed at about six weeks of the suspected exposure and still present today ( over a year now), under arm, below the ear lobe, groin,and a golf ball behind each leg. In my mind eh? By the way the exposure...receptive anal, unprotected, and the person unknown...Explain please???!!!



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Kevin
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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35635 - 06/13/02 12:09 AM

I never said anything was in your mind, so settle down, I'm not calling you nuts, nor did I know about the swollen nodes. What has your doctor said? If the doctor thought this was HIV related he would have said so? The physical symptoms you mention sound quite obvious and any doctor would have you tested very aggressively if he thought it was the real deal. It could be just coincidence that it happened 6 weeks after the episode you mention, but to reiterate, I never said it was in yor mind.

Take care,

Kevin



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Re: Regarding 12 months testing new
      #35643 - 06/13/02 08:36 AM

if iam wrong or if i upset you im sorry.
i dont know if im right or wrong.
but im going to be cautious.lots of love and respect to you.



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