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Springer
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To niclas RE: N subtype
      #34631 - 05/21/02 05:18 PM

I read your post and I am curious as to where you got your info that states that the N subtype is covered by the 3rd generation ELISA in Sweden. I personally have trawled the net for a year to find this. Could you give me credible link?

Even Worried couldn't find one and you can fill a warehouse with what he knows.




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Niclas
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34647 - 05/22/02 02:38 AM

First of all, why so worried about IF the third generation elisa detects the N subtype? I canīt give you a link about this but I can tell you that a specialist in the HIV area told me that he have checked Twice with diffrent virology laboratories and they have confirmed the test in sweden detects subtype N But this is in SWEDEN, I canīt tell you about the tests in the U.S. This is not so intresting when N subtype is so limited to two countrys in Africa.



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worried2002.
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34651 - 05/22/02 04:49 AM

third gen tests allegedly give a weak reaction to most group (not subtype!) N infections, however i don't have data on the updates made on those tests since 1998, i'm quite sure it will pick up most N infections with a weak reaction. Check with your test manifacturer.



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Springer
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34654 - 05/22/02 04:57 AM

I think it is important that the current test do react with at LEAST with all KNOWN subtypes. The fact that the N subtype originates from Cameroon is irrelevant as this country has 3 international airports and cross boundary infection is a real issue. I don’t question your information source I just feel that a credible link would allay the concerns many on this board.
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Springer




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Niclas
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34655 - 05/22/02 05:47 AM

Please understand something this is a very limited subtype as you also wrote this exist mainly in Cameroon. In Sweden we donīt have links to this information But our CDC have tested all Approved tests for this Subtype. I must thrust my HIV specialist because he have worked with HIV since 1984-85 and he have checked this information twice with a virology lab and in these Few laboratories we have that are approved to perform these test "HIV Tessts" the chief in these laboratories are only HIV specialists or Professors in the HIV area. Sweden Needs to have a test that detects all subtypes including HIV for that fact that we have many refugees from diffrent parts of Africa, What your test In U.S detects I donīt know but it should not be any big diffrence. In U.S if I have understand correctly your basic screening tests for "worried wells" doesnīt detects HIV 2 but in sweden it does, this is the main diffrence I donīt think there is any big diffrence for HIV 1.



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worried2002.
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34659 - 05/22/02 08:46 AM

Would you please consider stating exactly which test kits are approved in sweden? I wasn't able to understand the testing guidelines in your CDC page because they are written only in swedish. The english page doesn't include them. If you could provide an abstract...
I understand that usual screening is an elisa for HIV 1 and 2. Does it include p24 antigen testing as well? Most testing sites in italy screen with a 4th gen kit (recombinant + antigen).



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Anonymous
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34664 - 05/22/02 10:02 AM

We use fourth generation in person that may be newly infected and third generation for thoose that are 8-12 weeks after possible exposure date.



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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34696 - 05/22/02 08:05 PM

New exposure dates are coming soon. They say hiv can hide for up to 50 years!!



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jackblack
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Re: To niclas RE: N subtype new
      #34697 - 05/22/02 08:07 PM

Springer your always posting dumb questions like this!



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