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How Long Do Acute Symptoms Last?
#30748 - 03/28/02 07:19 AM
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hello, i had unprotected sex with someone i didn't really know six weeks ago. a week later i developed bacterial vaginosis. i was treated with an anitbiotic and then my tongue developed a white fuzzy appearance and was tingling. i thought maybe it was thrush, but the doctor said it was not. a week after that i developed a sore throat, night sweats and one swollen gland on my neck. a few days ago i developed a cough, two swollen glands on my groin and two additional swollen glands on the back of my neck. i always feel the worst in the morning and my glands seem to be the most enlarged then and shrink somewhat during the day (at least the ones on my neck). my tongue still has a tingling feeling...kind of like i have burned it, but i have not (and it's lasted for several weeks). i've been to 2 doctors and an ENT and they all say nothing is wrong with my tongue, but i feel it! i have 3 questions: 1. do symptoms of seroconversion come in a string like this over a period of several weeks? 2. i tested negative at 5 1/2 weeks with a rapid ELISA test. the doctor told me that detectable antibodies usually appear between 4-6 weeks. another doctor told me that since i am young (25), antibodies are usually detectable within 28 days (i guess because younger people have stronger immune systems and can produce them more rapidly?). has anyone heard of this claim? i cannot find anything about it on the internet. 3. i should say that i have been, like all of you, extremely stressed. i've never been so stressed in my life. two of the three doctors told me it's all in my head. but can stress cause several swollen glands, especially if it was one of the first symptoms to appear?
i had the person i was with get tested three weeks ago and he tested negative, but i'm worried he is in his window period. he claims he hasn't had unprotected sex with anyone else, but then why did he have it with me?
thanks so much for reading this lengthy note and thanks so much for all of your time. i am praying for everyone's health.
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mademoiselle,
i had almost every symptom you listed except general linfoadenopathy, they did not come all together.
I had extreme malaise and fatigue, headaches, muscle and joint aches (i've still got 'em...), muscle twitching, trembling, what i suspected were rashes, etc... You can have just coated tongue, if you are worrying about thrush, afaik it should cover not only your tongue but other parts of your mouth. As for your glands i never heard that stress can cause them but several other infections, even trivial ones such as the flu which is common in this period can cause them to swell. You have been examinated by doctors that did not find symptoms related to ARS.
I've never been so stressed in my life as well, altough i tested neg at 3 and 4.5 months (more than sufficient for several governments) i am still not confortable with it. This is an issue that causes more cases of severe stress and amxiety than real poz cases.
Being the fact that your source has been confirmed negative and you are negative as well at 6 weeks i would not worry too much, listen to tour doctors and get tested at 3 months. Salut!
P.S. I've had symilar tongue issues, that tingling burning sensation, i know what you are talking about. That could be stress induced.
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I had a similar situation but the guy I was with refused to get tested. So it is a very good sign that you are negative and so is he. Try to believe him...I know that he did not use protection with you but it is highly unlikey that you would be infected. I have had swollen gland since week seven. I have one swollen gland in my groin that is hard and has not gone down. I also have several in my neck that go up and down. I have tested negative at 7, 10, and 12 weeks. Plus a negative PCR test at 12 weeks. Now the doctors are going to biopsy my lymph node. I think it is possible to create these symptoms in your mind and your body follow. I would not worry so much. I KNOW that is easier said than done. Who knows....it might just be a wierd virus going around...not HIV. I hope I helped you!!
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JamieLEE,
You still need another antibody test. 12 weeks is not enough.
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From what I understood from Jamie her doctor said 12 weeks was enough. That's why he's started to look for other causes.
I guess what you are saying is that all the doctors, experts, the CDC, HIV/AIDS agencies, testing agencies (other then Home Access which recommends 6 months), and most if not all the countries in the world (some have a policy of 8 weeks conclusive) are all incorrect.
That you know better than all these people what the window period should be.
You can test from here to kindom come if you want, but why try to undermine people that are content with the recommended guidelines from RELIABLE sources?
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JamieLEE,
What are the glands in your neck like? I have one just under my jaw on the left side that has been there since week 2. I also seem to have a cluster on the left side of my neck. How large are the swollen glands around your groin? Mine appear to be smaller than the ones on my neck. I've never had anything like this before.
The guy gave me a copy of his test results saying they are negative, but my roommate thinks it is forged (it is a little sketchy), especially since it is a photocopy and not an original...so now I am completely freaking out. I e-mailed him asking me to send me the originals, but he has not replied so I am extremely nervous. If it weren't for the swollen glands, I would think I was fine. I know there is nothing I can do except keep getting tested at the appropriate intervals. Everytime I try to get a PCR, the doctors talk me out of it. I think I am going to get one done.
Sorry for the rambling, thanks for letting me freak out here.
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My glads that are swollen in my neck are right by where your pulse if felt. I would say they are about two inches in diameter. The one in my groin is about a size of a pea but is extremely hard, that is why the biopsy is being done. The doctor told me if gland are hard that is reason for concern. If the are soft to the touch it could be infection. I think you ought to believe this guy. He probably can not get originals of the test. If you want to do a PRC without a doctor go to EHIVTEST.COM. That is what I did and all was negative. They send you to a lab and will never get your name. Good luck..hope I helped!!!
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The CDC said that three months is conclusive. I have read more that you have evidently. I also had a PCR at 3 months and the chance that one of those would not find something is almost none. I choose to believe my tests. Also read this which is by an expert in HIV.
Thinking about an HIV Test?
Provided by Stephen Fallon, Ph.D.
© 2002 Stephen Fallon
Summary: If you wait just a little while after engaging in a risky behavior, you can then get a reliable HIV test. Wait three weeks, and a negative HIV test result is very reliable; wait three months, and it's virtually 100% accurate. Some local health departments require a person's name for testing, which is kept in confidential files. Others provide anonymous testing services; no one knows your name; you get an identification number to bring back for your results.
How do the tests work? Each year, 25 million Americans are tested for HIV antibodies1. Only certain sites are authorized to perform anonymous tests. The most common way to test involves drawing a small sample of blood. Some providers can also do a test with just a swab that collects saliva and mucosa from your mouth. Soon a new test will screen urine for HIV antibodies2. It's important to remember that saliva and urine do not transmit HIV. These tests are measuring your body's counterattack on HIV (antibodies), not actually finding HIV particles.
All tested fluids are first checked using an inexpensive test, such as the ELISA or Synthetic Peptide test. If the test produces a positive reading, this result is double-checked with a much more specific test, such as the Western Blot.
Are those tests really accurate? You may have heard about problems with early versions of HIV tests, which gave many people inaccurate test results. But tests have been improved. In 1990, 1.5 out of every 100 tests gave a "false positive" result, meaning that the test thought you had HIV when in fact you did not3! But by 1997 the false positive rate had dropped to less than 5 out of every 100,000 tests for the ELISA, and the Western Blot would rule out even those few false results4.
What is the "window period of uncertainty"? Standard HIV tests screen for your antibodies to HIV. Most people begin producing antibodies within a few weeks, although a few may take several months. So if you rush to a clinic for a test too soon after a risky behavior, you could receive a "false negative" result, suggesting that you're not infected when you actually are.
Fortunately, the "window period" has been cut as tests have improved. In 1990, the ELISA test provided reliable results only if the person's risk behavior had occurred six weeks ago (95% accuracy at 45 days). Today, improved tests give highly accurate results just three weeks after any risk behavior (95% confidence at 25 days5, or even 22 days6 ). Still, a follow-up test is required to approach 100% accuracy. Nearly all patients seroconvert (i.e. possess detectable antibodies) by three months after their reported risk behavior7.
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