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Elisa/PCR/Bullshit
      #28671 - 02/23/02 08:43 PM

I posted here numerous times, about my PCR and Elisa's. I have tested negative with EIA at 14 weeks, and PCR 16 weeks. I have lost almost 21 pounds in two months, and I "was" a fat happy person. Now I am a wreck. We had a party today, and almost everyone who walked in the house indicated I had lost weight. I indicated I was not trying, especially at my daughters birthday. What I am saying here is I do not know that much about Elisa's, and PCR's, but most everyone is comforting on this board, my shrink says to stay off of the internet about AIDS. What does a doctor that talks to you like you have an OCD know, when you know something is going on inside of your body. I tell you one thing, should I turn positive, the person that gave it to me wish they naver had..................



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28674 - 02/23/02 08:55 PM

I know how you feel, I know a guy who got HIV from a prostitute in LA, and he made her pay dearly. What was your exact exposure?



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28675 - 02/23/02 09:05 PM

I am pissed, I had sex with a prostitute, started out protected, however, the condom was all they way off when we finished. I feel I have been through ARS from November, 2001 through January 2002. If I have HIV I don't blame her for giving it to me, I just blame her for telling me she is clean, when she knew she was not. She will pay, if this ends up the way I think it is........

I made a mistake, one night while drinking, however if a whore tells you she is clean, and then you wear a rubber, and it breaks, then there is some sort of mistrust. The thing that really is killing me is, I love my family, made a mistake, and now I may not be able to see my daughter graduate Hight School. Yes I am extremely remorsfull, and I wish I had not done what I did. I have not had a drink since that day in October.



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28676 - 02/23/02 09:12 PM

Yea I had a condom break on a whore, but never experienced ARS symptoms, what makes you think you have HIV?



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28677 - 02/23/02 09:18 PM

I had a negative EIA at 14 weeks, and a PCR at 16 weeks, however, I have been down for almost 3 months now. My legs were killing me, I have had numerous tremors, I have had peripheril neuropathy, I have lost a lot of weight in my face, and my legs, and other things. I am probably one of those people that become debilitated very quickly.



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28678 - 02/23/02 09:18 PM

I wouldn't worry about turning positive. If you were going to test positive you would have by now. Your tests show you are negative. I don't see why you even bothered with a PCR since your antibody test was negative after 12 weeks. I'm not saying something isn't going on, 'but it isn't HIV. Seeing a shrink is the right way to go.

I do have a question about one of your comments...

"I tell you one thing, should I turn positive, the person that gave it to me wish they naver had................."

Unless this was a needlestick exposure, blood transfusion (EXTEMElY RARE) you are a rape victim or an unwitting spouse how do you figure that this is all someone else's fault. Try taking some personal responsiblity for your own actions.




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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28679 - 02/23/02 09:23 PM

Jackie Blue,

I do agree with you, however, if someone knows he or she is HIV/AIDS infected, and is wortking as a prostitute, don't you think they need to tell their clientel his/her status? I mean, if someone had sex with a person who was HIV +, and the condom broke, then at least you know you could go to a doctor and get PEP.!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28681 - 02/23/02 09:42 PM

Morally it would be right to tell. There have been cases of people arrested for knowingly trying to spread HIV. However you are not dealing with someone you picked up in a bar and they insisted on not using a condom.

That's why condoms should be used. It's possible someone might not be telling you the truth. It's possible that someone could be infected and not know it. Unfortunately your's broke. But since you have now tested negative twice, and you don't even have proof she is infected, I think you should stop dwelling on the whole incident.

All your assumptions is based on the fact that she said she was 'clean' (don't even get me started on that term) and you don't believe her.

Again, it's a fact of life people have sex outside the marriage. I'm not here to pass judgement on that. I'm here to say, if you're going to indulge in that then you need to accept the consequences of your own behavior. You don't do that by complaining about the fact a prostitute might have lied to you. You do that by accepting the fact that you put YOURSELF at risk, no one else did. If you had kept your pants zipped then, you wouldn't have needed a condom, it wouldn't have broken, and you wouldn't have become one of the worried well.



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28683 - 02/23/02 09:50 PM

Jackie,

As I said I agree, I have a drinking problem.!!!!!!!!!!!! I am extremely remorsfull for what I did. I respect your posts, and know you are knowlageable, however, this mistake has just consumed me. I lost my business in 2 months because of this. Man don't kill me, I know I made a mistake, and just want to know that there is a chance for me to be negative. I even told my wife, (not about what happened) that I would devote all of my charity to HIV/AIDS because I know what these peole are going through. My thoughts have changed about HIV/AIDS and, the homosexual people. Man were all in this together.



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit and Jackie and the rest new
      #28687 - 02/23/02 10:20 PM

Ok folks

My chance to add. I slept with an escort 3 weeks ago. i used a condom but I have been experiencing ARS symptioms and I am freaked out. But all this freakin out is not the prostitute's fault. So I do not think its nice to be blaming her. Just like Jackie said....its us males who brought this upheavel on ourselves..I mean I asked the escort if she was clean and she told me she was. Now if she is lying then she is liable, but it is still our fault since we asked for her and not vice versa. Also, she might not know that she is infected. I wish the best for evryone. I have learned my lesson and I leave the rest upto God. So please folks, dont blame others unless you really have a reason to do so!



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28696 - 02/24/02 03:52 AM

I can't believe you MEN saying the hookers will pay if you end up infected. First of all, lets say you are infected you don't know that you caught it off her. Educate yourself. You have a better chance of being hit by lightening than being infected through this exposure. She is more likely to catch something off you. Bottom line is grow up and be a MAN, and except responsibility for your own actions. I'm pretty sure you are fine though. By the way if you want to live and see your child graduate from high school you might want to stop drinking. Have you ever heard of cirrosis.



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Re: Elisa/PCR/Bullshit new
      #28701 - 02/24/02 07:43 AM

I know you are going through your own personal hell. I also know that what I'm about to say, probably won't calm you down, but here goes.

Take the worst case scenario. She is indeed postive and you didn't use a condom at all. Even with the worst case the odds of someone becoming infected is something like 1 in 500 from a one time exposure. You used a condom for at least part of the time. That would decrease your risk of exposure. Then we have the fact that you don't know if she was infected or not. If she isn't then your risk is nil.

Let's remove the issue of HIV, because you are not infected. Even the CDC recommends only 3 months in most cases and believe me, you fall into that category. Not only did you have an Elisa at 14 which was negative, you had a PCR at 16 weeks which was negative. If you didn't show positive on either of those then you aren't ever going to show positive due to this incident.

Now let's look at the big picture.
You feel remorse, you have lost your business, you are consumed with this. You feel that since you still have symptoms the tests must be wrong. You are not the first negative person to feel that way, nor will you be the last. Your 'symptoms' have nothing to do with HIV. I would suggest you go back and read the set of posts called 'A game for Paul', matter of fact I would suggest that everyone on this board that is convinced that their symptoms can only mean they are infected go read it.



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I'm respectfully asking... new
      #28709 - 02/24/02 09:43 AM

that you all stop using the term 'clean' when referring to someone who is HIV negative. The opposite would mean that someone who is HIV positive is 'dirty'.

Now I don't speak for the whole of the HIV population, but I personally don't care for that connotation. I figure that the posters here that have been using that term are unaware of the fact it is a slur to those of us that are positive.



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Re: I'm respectfully asking... new
      #28716 - 02/24/02 01:12 PM

Sorry Jackie,

I didnt mean to offend those with HIV. I will chose my words more carefully next time. Thanks



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