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Good information on the board
#28031 - 02/09/02 10:20 AM
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There has been a lot of good information posted lately. However I've seen a couple of things I would like to clear up.
ARS/ARC are not the same things. There is a stage between initial infection and AIDS. It used to be called Aids Related Complex (ARC). It is now known as Symptomatic HIV Infection. I've reposted an article from aegis.com that gives you the CDC breakdowns of the disease stages. It is older (1993) and does use the older terms. However, most of the information is the same today.
AIDS or HIV (or both) Just because you have HIV Disease (or are "HIV Positive"), you don't necessarily have the disease called AIDS. AIDS -- acquired immunodeficiency syndrome -- is a U.S. government classification of HIV Disease. The government does two things with a person's AIDS classification --
It affects how the government handles epidemic statistics. It defines who is able to get U.S. government assistance. Everybody who has AIDS also has HIV Disease. But not everybody with HIV Disease is classified by the U.S. government as having AIDS.
This U.S. Government classification of AIDS has two parts --
T-cell count. History of an AIDS-defining disease.
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T-cell Count The term t-cell is the popular name of a cell in the immune system. A better term is CD4 because there are several flavors of t-cells and we need to restrict our discussion to only one kind of t-cell -- officially called "CD4+ T-lymphocytes." The virus that causes AIDS attacks CD4 cells. The structure of a CD4 cell makes it the easiest target for the virus.
HIV invades your CD4 cells and uses them as a breeding ground for new virus particles. Eventually the CD4 cell is killed by the virus.
As the number of CD4 cells decreases, your risk of getting a severe disease -- or "opportunistic illness" -- increases.
Here are the three official categories of CD4 counts -- Category Classification CD4 Level
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1 asymptomatic greater than or equal to 500 cells/mL 2 ARC 200-499 cells/uL 3 AIDS less than 200 cells/uL
Your disease classification -- asymptomatic, ARC, or AIDS -- is based on the lowest t-cell test you ever had. For example, if you once tested at 180 ... but then got a big boost from a new protease inhibitor ... you are still considered in Category 3.
Your category is the lowest category you have ever been in, not your current category.
There's more to it than CD4 tests. The next section is the official definition.
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The Definition Of AIDS Category 1 (Asymptomatic HIV Disease) You are in Category 1 only if you are asymptomatic (no symptoms) and have never had less then 500 CD4 cells. If you have had any of the AIDS-defining diseases listed for categories 2 or 3, then you are not in this category.
If your t-cell count has ever dropped below 500, you are not at Category 1.
Category 2 (ARC) You are in Category 2 if -- your T-cells have dropped below 500 but never below 200; and, -- or -- you have never had any Category 3 diseases (see below) but have had at least one of the following defining illnesses -- Bacillary angiomatosis Candidiasis, oropharyngeal (thrush) Candidiasis, vulvovaginal; persistent, frequent, or poorly responsive to therapy Cervical dysplasia (moderate or severe)/cervical carcinoma in situ Constitutional symptoms, such as fever (38.5 C) or diarrhea lasting greater than 1 month Hairy leukoplakia, oral Herpes zoster (shingles), involving at least two distinct episodes or more than one dermatome Idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura Listeriosis Pelvic inflammatory disease, particularly if complicated by tubo-ovarian abscess Peripheral neuropathy According to the U.S. government, Category 2 means the immune system shows some signs of damage but it isn't life-threatening. Category 3 (AIDS) You are in Category 3 (i.e., you have "AIDS") if -- your T-cells have dropped below 200; -- or -- you have had at least one of the following defining illnesses -- Candidiasis of bronchi, trachea, or lungs Candidiasis, esophageal Cervical cancer, invasive** Coccidioidomycosis, disseminated or extrapulmonary Cryptococcosis, extrapulmonary Cryptosporidiosis, chronic intestinal (greater than 1 month's duration) Cytomegalovirus disease (other than liver, spleen, or nodes) Cytomegalovirus retinitis (with loss of vision) Encephalopathy, HIV-related Herpes simplex: chronic ulcer(s) (greater than 1 month's duration); or bronchitis, pneumonitis, or esophagitis Histoplasmosis, disseminated or extrapulmonary Isosporiasis, chronic intestinal (greater than 1 month's duration) Kaposi's sarcoma Lymphoma, Burkitt's (or equivalent term) Lymphoma, immunoblastic (or equivalent term) Lymphoma, primary, of brain Mycobacterium avium complex or M. kansasii, disseminated or extrapulmonary Mycobacterium tuberculosis, any site (pulmonary** or extrapulmonary) Mycobacterium, other species or unidentified species, disseminated or extrapulmonary Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia Pneumonia, recurrent** Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy Salmonella septicemia, recurrent Toxoplasmosis of brain Wasting syndrome due to HIV ** Added in the 1993 expansion of the AIDS surveillance case definition. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This information is designed to support, not replace, the relationship that exists between you and your doctor. ©1998. AEGIS.
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Cool Jackie.
Could u just tell me something? What I don't get is this: once ARS is over, when do other symptoms begin? Do people proceed with the symptoms? Like do they get neurological complications? Opportunistic infections? How likely is it to get say HIV-related dental conditions, neuro complications and opportunistic infections, say 3 months after the exposure???
PB
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Thank you Jackie, and thanks to PaulB too for his wonderful post which you might be referring too. Thes two posts have really helped me and Im sure others too. However one thing still isn't clear maybe you can help. Im sure of the only possible date of exposure I don't remember ever experiencing anything that is consistent of ARS as you and PaulB dscribed it except 1-2 days of a general ill feeling accompanied by a headache slight diziness and an anxious feeling. Rested and it went away. This was at about 4 weeks 9 weeks after the possible exposure I got slight pain and pressure in the groin followed by pain in my neck and armpits 3 mos after possble exposure with presumably the glands still swollen and painfull. I developed light night sweats anound my collar neck and upper chest and a tingling feeling in both hands and several numb fingers. This lasted 1-2 weeks 4-5 months Gland still swollen and hurting Night sweats gone what I thought was neuopathy gone but I have recently had oral problems including canker sores on inner bottom lip and inside cheek, white blotches on tounge which left it feeling numb Now I know that this int ARS because of the duration but could it be ARC or Stage 2 as you put it Its now been 6 mos since possible exposure and Im awaiting my test results. Thats why Im reaching out Im very afraid to go get them terrified is more like it. Any words of advice would be greatly appreciated Thanks
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Go get your test results. Nothing you described would be related to HIV infection. More than likely stress is the cause.
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It isn't likely. Just like everything else with this disease, nothing is written in stone. For instance, I have been infected for 5 years. I am classified as Symptomatic, not because of any illness, I haven't had an HIV related illness, but because my t-cell count at one point was 280. Even though my t-cell count is much higher now, I am still classified as symptomatic.
I can't remember. Have you tested yet? Since it is over three months you can get tested and consider the test conclusive.
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