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Six week negative. Girlfriend and I still symptomatic. 'ARS can last for up to ten weeks'(?)
#269480 - 12/06/12 09:29 PM
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Hi guys, just a quick update from:
http://www.thebody.com/cgi-bin/bbs/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=infected&Number=269032
Six week test results came back:
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'HIV 1/2 Antigen/Antibody: Not Detected (not sure on generation - trying to find out) Heb B surface antigen: Not Detected Hep C antibody: Not Detected
HAEMATOLOGY Haeomogloben 159 g/L (130-180) Red cell count 5.4 x10^12/L (4.5-6.5) Haematocrit 0.48 (0.40-0.54) MCV 89 fL (80-100) MCH 29 pg (27-32) MCHC 332 g/L (310-360) RDW 12.8 (10-15) Platelets 218 x10^9/L (150-400) White cell count5.5 x10^9/L (4.0-11.0) Neurophils 3.1 x10^9/L (2.0-7.5) Lymphocytes 1.8 x10^9/L (1.2-4.0) Monocytes 0.5 x10^9/L (0.2-1.0) Eosinophils <0.1 x10^9/L (0.0-0.5) Basophils <0.1 x10^9/L (0.0-0.1) IM screening test: Negative Atypical mononuclear cells NOT seen. The erythrocytes and platelets appear normal in morphology.
Syphilis Serology Rapid Plasma Reagin (RPR): Non reactive Syphilis antibody (EIA): Non reactive
Neisseria gonorrhoeae PCR Specimin: First void urine Neisseria gonorrhoeae DNA: Not detected
Chlamydia trachomatic PCR Specimin: First void urine Chlamydia trachomatis DNA: Not detected'
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Girlfriend's tests were a lot simpler (think they were just for HIV and HEP B/C) but also came back negative.
Had her post-seizure MRI last week too but it's going to be another 2 weeks (and another $300) before she gets consulted on the results(?!) Absolute joke.
But yes, anyway. I know 'six week results are 95%+ conclusive' / no-one here - or on any of the other boards - has ever seen a six week negative turn into a positive but...
Something is wrong with us. Something is still wrong with us. Today marks (almost) the 8 week post-potential-exposure / symptoms mark.
On top of everything mentioned in the last thread (symptoms both my girlfriend and I have been experiencing):
Sore throat Mouth ulcers / thrush Crippling fatigue Muscle pain / aches Swollen lymph nodes Itchy Skin *Blood in urine *Mysterious kidney-bean sized lump underneath chin/top of neck *vaginal thrush/discharge (*girlfriend only) Night sweats Hives Miscelleanous rashes Bruising Pins and needles Chills Temperature Rash on right palm etc etc
Things have only become worse.
The ever-frequent hands & feet pins and needles has - on occasion - actually become painful. A few nights ago the pain actually woke me up: the normal tingling sensation in my fingers (can feel it now writing this) spread all the way up to my inner elbow and actually felt like a pins & needles ...cramping almost(?) Subsided after a few minutes.
Both (still) often covered in random itchy hives (had a very itchy cluster on my bottom a few days ago); frequent mouth ulcers (some painful, some not); diarrhea / stomach cramping / (still / persistant) sore throat / girlfriend has very itchy / dry lips / face(?); slight fungal infection (brown crust) on right thumb nail and right big-toe nail(?)
Left lymph node still feels like it's trying to escape out of the side of my neck.
Most worrying at the moment is the dizzyness / confusion / frequent feelings of sudden vertigo / panic though. Have both been getting sudden feelings of intense dizzyness - especially after eating and/or hot showers / standing up too fast etc etc. Very unusual / have never had anything like this before. Have never had anything like any of this before.
Short term memory is also particularly bad right now. Maybe it's just anxiety. Maybe it's all just anxiety. Normally very alert girlfriend keeps forgetting to lock the car doors / turn the gas off / loosing her train of thought mid-conversation etc etc; I have huge difficulty focusing on / remembering pretty much *anything*.
Speaking of (all of the above / plus, coupled with the intense fatigue): I quit my job yesterday / first day off today. Just couldn't cope.
(If this isn't what-I-really-hope-it-isn't (still can't say it); then I just know it's still going to be something really, really bad. When else - amongst *everything* else - are pins and needles ever contagious?!)
At the very least though, if - by some miracle - this ISN'T HIV related then ****, it's the biggest indicator that symptoms truly, cannot ever be relied upon. In an ideal world this will hopefully just be a miracle story where there was possible exposure / *every* possible symptom (in TWO people) / a complete loss of faith and then still a negative result.
Not sure what I'm hoping to achive by writing this thread just... ugh.
Plan for the next week or so is to just get ridiculous amount of sleep and go for another test at the 8 or 9 week mark.
Suggestions, advice...(?) Has anyone ever seen or heard of anything similar(?) Maybe worth mentioning we're both still really quite young and (at least, were) incredibly healthy / worry free.
(Hope these threads don't come across as too repetitive; I KNOW testing is the only reliable / worthwhile thing to do right now but... just need somewhere to organize my thoughts.)
Thanks in advance.
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That sure sounds pretty terrible, and I thought I had it bad.
I am not trying to cross anybody's domain here, but from what I've understand since spending the last month distraught, somewhat paranoid, and unrelentingly scouring each and every thread on various HIV forums... I've concluded the general opinion that HIV's antibody's are detectable in at least 80% (some doctors say more) of newly infected individuals.... so at 6-weeks, there is no 99.9% from what I gather, but you have strong backing to suggest you do not have the virus.
I myself just had a negative today at the 7-week mark.
Apparently it rarely changes, but nothing is written in stone until the 3-month mark.
Good luck
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Long story short. IF all those symptoms of yours had anything to do with HIV, then your test would have been positive. "Symptoms' are caused by the body fighting off something. If this had been seroconversion you would have developed antibodies.
Besides, ARS only lasts a week or so.
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Spent almost all of today sleeping. Still tired. Just found this:
https://sites.google.com/site/newhivaidslikeviruschina/
*Exactly* our symptoms. *EXACTLY*.
Would more than explain such immediate symptoms / anxiety / yet still negative results etc etc etc. Has anyone ever heard of this(?!)
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'HIV 1/2 Antigen/Antibody: Not Detected (not sure on generation - trying to find out)
Antibody + Antigen = 4th Generation Elisa
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Spent almost all of today sleeping. Still tired. Just found this:
https://sites.google.com/site/newhivaidslikeviruschina/
*Exactly* our symptoms. *EXACTLY*.
Would more than explain such immediate symptoms / anxiety / yet still negative results etc etc etc. Has anyone ever heard of this(?!)
yes:
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/HIV-like-illness--/show/1436
I have myself tested negative out to 9 months with 5 different elisa (4th gen), yet I have unexplained pimples/irritated taste buds for the last six months (today is one of those bad days, cause my tastebuds at the tip of my tongue are sore):
http://postimage.org/image/rej4q2mgb/
http://postimage.org/image/o6pcpgkzd/
http://postimage.org/image/xebh7gwmj/
http://postimage.org/image/kodct2k3d/
not to mention I also have a low (even thought is within the range) low WBC (about 4,500 - range 4,000 to 10,000)
hang in there. if one of you would be infected there would be at least one positive test by now. there is not, so looks like HIV is not in the equation.
-------------------- Oral Sex: What's the Real Risk for HIV?
http://www.thebody.com/content/art58210.html
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And what was your exposure?
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And what was your exposure?
he never said what his risk was. he only said it was "high risk". don't know what means with that.
-------------------- Oral Sex: What's the Real Risk for HIV?
http://www.thebody.com/content/art58210.html
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Just found out I tested negative at 12 weeks / 92 days (via blood draw at a clinic). Thanks to all of you - again - for your continued support throughout this!
The symptoms continue and are still unexplained but at least I/we can rule out HIV. Thanks again. SO much. (This has been without doubt the worst, most distressing period of my life so far and your posts / messages / reassurances *really* did mean a lot). All the best, guys. Thank you.
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excellent news. all the best to you.
-------------------- Oral Sex: What's the Real Risk for HIV?
http://www.thebody.com/content/art58210.html
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