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Testing Nightmare, 4 tests 3 days, 6 tests 2 weeks
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I got tested after exposure and the results were negative, yay right? Well I'm kind of doubting my result... not out of "should I have waited longer" because I waited the right amount of time, it's how the test administrator performed the test. He asked if I wanted the finger prick or oral test, I asked for the finger prick. From the OraQuick website testing procedures, it says to collect the sample of blood and mix it with the solution in the vial (http://www.orasure.com/products-infectio…
What my test guy did was after he collected the blood, he tapped and smeared the blood on the testing device pad (the pad that you would insert in your mouth if you were doing it orally) and then inserted it into the vial... would the fact that he didn't mix the blood in the solution and did it how he did still make my test valid? I asked him and he said you can do it either way, but I've never seen it done how he did...
I got tested again because I didn't feel comfortable with how the guy did the test. Same test (OraQuick finger prick test). This time the lady pricked my finger, swirled the blood in the buffer/solution, and left the white blood sample collector stick in the buffer/solution in there with the OraQuick 1/2 testing device. I watched the OraQuick video after the fact and they didn't keep the sample collecting stick thing in there for the test... my test results were negative. Can I be confident in this test result even though the sample stick remained in the test vial WITH the testing device or would the fact that the sample stick was in there too mean I need to get tested again?
I got tested again, this time the guy did the oraquick oral swab and I felt like he didn't do a good enough job swabbing my mouth and I should have swabbed my own mouth but he said no. I left there after getting another negative result and went to another place where they did the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 test (fingerprick) and everything went fine but doubt didn't creep in until they guy was like "Well, we don't have to wait the 15 minutes I can tell you that you will be negative have a good day" and rushed me out of the office after about 10 minutes... I just wish we could have waited 15 to be 100% for certain at least for my head...
Am I okay even though the tests were performed according to the correct protocol? Please someone let me know it'd be greatly appreciated I'm begging someone please answer! I just wish they would have done the test with no extra stuff such as smearing the blood on the thing or leaving something in the vial!
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I got tested after exposure and the results were negative, yay right? Well I'm kind of doubting my result... not out of "should I have waited longer" because I waited the right amount of time, it's how the test administrator performed the test. He asked if I wanted the finger prick or oral test, I asked for the finger prick. From the OraQuick website testing procedures, it says to collect the sample of blood and mix it with the solution in the vial (http://www.orasure.com/products-infectio…
What my test guy did was after he collected the blood, he tapped and smeared the blood on the testing device pad (the pad that you would insert in your mouth if you were doing it orally) and then inserted it into the vial... would the fact that he didn't mix the blood in the solution and did it how he did still make my test valid? I asked him and he said you can do it either way, but I've never seen it done how he did...
I got tested again because I didn't feel comfortable with how the guy did the test. Same test (OraQuick finger prick test). This time the lady pricked my finger, swirled the blood in the buffer/solution, and left the white blood sample collector stick in the buffer/solution in there with the OraQuick 1/2 testing device. I watched the OraQuick video after the fact and they didn't keep the sample collecting stick thing in there for the test... my test results were negative. Can I be confident in this test result even though the sample stick remained in the test vial WITH the testing device or would the fact that the sample stick was in there too mean I need to get tested again?
I got tested again, this time the guy did the oraquick oral swab and I felt like he didn't do a good enough job swabbing my mouth and I should have swabbed my own mouth but he said no. I left there after getting another negative result and went to another place where they did the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 test (fingerprick) and everything went fine but doubt didn't creep in until they guy was like "Well, we don't have to wait the 15 minutes I can tell you that you will be negative have a good day" and rushed me out of the office after about 10 minutes... I just wish we could have waited 15 to be 100% for certain at least for my head...
Am I okay even though the tests were performed according to the correct protocol? Please someone let me know it'd be greatly appreciated I'm begging someone please answer! I just wish they would have done the test with no extra stuff such as smearing the blood on the thing or leaving something in the vial!
how long did you wait before testing? 13 weeks post exposure eliminates all doubts...
what makes you more qualified to critique a trained testing technician's work? i'm just curious... sure, human error is possible, however, not when you have tested NUMEROUS times as stated, and get the same result.
there isnt a person on this forum that is indeed hiv positive, that wouldnt be jumping for JOY to have gotten negative test results, and here you are doubting & convincing yourself something must be wrong?? WOW...
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I waited past 13 weeks so I'm not worried about the timeline. I am just freaking out a little bit about the way the OraQuick test was performed (how it wasn't exactly how the training video shows it to be done on youtube... just type in OraQuick and it comes up). The reason I freaked about the ClearView is because the guy was like "Well, we don't have to wait 15 minutes I can tell you right now you're negative." It's just I am a follow the rules type of person... and the rules for testing procedures weren't followed and it just kinda bothers me...
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I waited past 13 weeks so I'm not worried about the timeline. I am just freaking out a little bit about the way the OraQuick test was performed (how it wasn't exactly how the training video shows it to be done on youtube... just type in OraQuick and it comes up). The reason I freaked about the ClearView is because the guy was like "Well, we don't have to wait 15 minutes I can tell you right now you're negative." It's just I am a follow the rules type of person... and the rules for testing procedures weren't followed and it just kinda bothers me...
your follow the rules mentality only applies to someone else? and just one of MULTIPLE tests that ALL yielded the same results? You see the insanity yet??? ACCEPT your negative results, and be grateful for that....
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No it's not that and the thought to even make this thread would have never crossed my mind if I a test was performed correctly... everywhere I've tested hasn't followed the exact steps when it comes to the OraQuick test (and you can watch the official training video by simply going to YouTube and typing in OraQuick in the search bar, it's the first video that comes up). When I've gotten tested, some places didn't wipe the first drop of blood away and squeeze for another, didn't put enough blood in the collection loop (you shouldn't be able to see through it), they wouldn't let me swab my own mouth and did a half a__ swab that wouldn't be credible in collection tissue, and left the collection loop in the solution/buffer! Those factors might have an effect on the initial result of the test (possibly???) and that is where I'm getting at.... if it was done RIGHT, I would gladly move on!
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Then go have a blood drawn done and see what you can say is wrong about that when you test negative.
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You guys are acting like I want to go through this. The OraQuick people wouldn't have specific training steps if they weren't meant to be followed now would they?
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You guys are acting like I want to go through this. The OraQuick people wouldn't have specific training steps if they weren't meant to be followed now would they?
no, YOU are acting like YOU want to go through this, AND like YOU WANT to be positive. You are clearly displaying mental illness, that depicts the fact of wanting it. (1) You are taking it upon yourself to critique a qualified situation that other than the internet or youtube, You have know scientific knowledge of (2) You are ignorant to the fact that in todays technology, medical facilities have shared networks, that for instance, when you go in, they pull you up on the screen and see you are excessively testing for no valid reason anymore, instead you are being irrational (3) You go to professional seeking an answer but yet are UNWILLING to ACCEPT those answers, even when they are consistently repetitive. (4) HERE you are now doing the EXACT same thing...... looking for reasons to justify YOUR irrational mind. (5) human error is only capable of producing a false positive, not so much in the administering of the test, moreso in the sensitivity, because they ARE so sensitive. Testing NEVER produces a false negative once the body has had the appropriate timeframe to react & produce antibodies.
I will leave you with this thought: Mental Illness is like any other chronic illness, it will progressively worsen until you get humbly honest enough with yourself to get the help you need to address it. Which do you prefer..... someone to look at you as someone who has HIV/AIDS or a nut case??? Neither is any better than the other, judgement is just that...judgement. Your actions only dictate what kind of judgement you GET for yourself, facts dont change. For example, here you are WANTING us to support your irrational mind, however by doing so you are only displaying & projecting yourself as a nutcase who refuses to accept facts
The possibilities of them NOT wasting anymore tests on you after the first 2, are more likely than your doubts you have expressed here. Cant you see the likelihood of them actually NOT wasting anymore money & resources on you each time you walk through the door, knowing you are only going to call it all a lie?????? The testing you need, ISNT HIV testing, it's a mental health evaluation..
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Rules aren't meant to be broken. I simply explained the situation in my first post and asked that if any way of the ways in which tests weren't done correctly because they WEREN'T would affect my test. I actually did HIV testing at my college as a work-study program at the local clinic so I know that procedure should be followed in regard to testing, not "just because I've seen it done this way it's fine." I would have gotten fired from that job had I done some of the things being tested the way I was.
Don't sit here and tell me I'm ignorant to the fact that all places are networked either... you think I don't know that? I simply don't care what they see as long as I could have a correctly done test.
With all that being said and done, I went for one last test where correct procedure was followed and now I can accept my negative result because things were done the RIGHT way, not a run-and-gun "Oh I add my extra little procedure to the test." Why can't YOU see and agree though that test procedures should be followed to a tee, not have anything added or subtracted to them???
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At least agree with me on this... when someone is "supposed" to be well-versed in HIV testing tells you there is a 2 year window period... I think it's safe to say he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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At least agree with me on this... when someone is "supposed" to be well-versed in HIV testing tells you there is a 2 year window period... I think it's safe to say he doesn't know what he's talking about.
you tell me, whats the difference between THAT person, telling you that and being so welled versed... and YOUR claims of verse and questioning not one.....but 10 tests???
i cant tell ya the differences, but the commonalities are: psychological
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Did you NOT read my previous post that said I got tested and the CORRECT procedures were followed and I've put this behind me? Save your oh-so judgmental "cut downs" please!
I understand that you are a staple here on these forums H2A, but I believe it's crazy to believe that a test shouldn't be ran according to the exact directions as you have stated it doesn't matter as long as it's negative.
I know that it is your job to comfort people but saying that an HIV test of all tests shouldn't follow the exact guidelines as long as it is negative is complete and utter ludicrousness.
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So if you have put this all behind you and are oh so ready to move on with your life, why do you feel any need to prove your point.
Quite frankly, it would seem that all your tests must have been done correctly since you now ultimately believe your last one for whatever reason.
So why the anger? You're negative, seems like something someone would be really happy about instead of being so angry as to try to prove a point to a person you won't ever meet and truly as no bearing on your life.
Interesting.
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Did you NOT read my previous post that said I got tested and the CORRECT procedures were followed and I've put this behind me? Save your oh-so judgmental "cut downs" please!
I understand that you are a staple here on these forums H2A, but I believe it's crazy to believe that a test shouldn't be ran according to the exact directions as you have stated it doesn't matter as long as it's negative.
I know that it is your job to comfort people but saying that an HIV test of all tests shouldn't follow the exact guidelines as long as it is negative is complete and utter ludicrousness.
before i explain this, plz ask your Dr to up the dosage of medication so you can understand & follow along without deflecting it on me, to justify your "ludicrus" behavior...
i never once stated or endorsed in any fashion how a test was administered.... i have pointed out that you had 10, and the reality of unlikeliness that even 9 of those 10, or more than 1 even.....were continuously administered "wrongly" would be simply a farce. YOU implied that they were all administered to you, because it was you, blah blah blah*.... furthermore, if you think i am a staple of this site, you OBVIOUSLY dont have a clue about me......
you dont need to flatter me, it gets you absolutely no where, as anyone who has been around here long enough, i am anything but comforting. not many, if any would say that anyways. lol. dont worry, i dont take offense, we all choose how much insanity we will tolerate out of ourselves and others as well... you dont realise what people like you actually display when ya come here with stories like you have posted. Seriously you claim all that knowledge of testing and how it should be etc, yet come here crying doubt? hahaha, i will have 2 of whatever you are (its happy hour) dont you realise, that WE realise that when YOU come here doubting professionals, scientific tests, etc..... that WE KNOW you arent going to believe us either??? so why even bother? do you think WE are going side with you, justify your insanity, or ?????
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okay folks , lets not argue. I don't blame someoone for being upset over how a test is done. Especially if they are new to all this. Just wondering if one is pos is overwhelming. So to be upset over how a test is done is understandable. Look at it like this, some people when cooking a dish will insist on measuring all the ingredients to the exact. And that is proper. But others just use their eye and experience in judging the amount, and the dish comes out just as good as the first persons. I have a friend who doesn't do anything without looking at evey option. I sorta fly by the seat of my pants. Thats what makes the world interesting. We both get the same thing done but at different rates and styles. So lets just leave it at that, OK . So just shake hands, kiss and be nice. lol
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