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please help me. deep kiss and cuts .
#251225 - 07/18/10 09:06 PM
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i am 26 yr old male from India. 48 hours back i had protected sex with a girl whom i later 100% suspect of being HIV infected. during the sex, we had deep hard kissing for 5 minutes or so and it resulted in my lips getting minor cuts and scratches. now i believe the girl did it on purpose to infect max no of people. im scared now. at the time of kiss i dont remember tasing blood. today i rechecked myself by biting my lips with almost same pressure and i had visisble blood in my saliva. i think the girl too has oral wounds. please help me im scared.what are the odds of getting a n infection through such a situation? should i go for the preventive nPEP treatment. (im not sure about the HIV status of the girl. but from the way she was behaving after the sex it gives me serious worries.) is the nPEP avalilable in india. its not been the maximim allowed 72 hours to start nPEP yet. is it affordable. im scared to even do a test now please help me. please asnwer my question as soon as possible.
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Hopefully you went to a doctor or hospital and let professionals diagnose and treat you . The
event (Kissing) you describe is all but impossible to transmit the virus , if she was trying , she needs a better method to infect others , and she's sitting on it ! If you suspect she is really purposely trying to infect others you must file a complaint or , well , persuade her that that course of action may be immediately harmful to her health . THAT behavior is NOT to be tolerated .
Let us know what happens . . .
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SRCHFRANS34 you certainly act like an attorney. It's good the law advice you are giving is to someone out of the US. Suspecting someone is trying to infect you without proof will get you laughed out of any place that you think you could report that behavior. Especially since the poster isn't going to get infected from kissing and protected sex
At least in this country a person can't be forced to test because someone has an overactive imagination.
You are assuming that what the poster has said is true that she was trying to infect him. What's your proof?
Got news for you. Those of us with HIV do have rights and those without HIV have the responsiblity to protect their own health by using condoms.
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Are you kiding me ? I read your " interview " your advice has no more measure of importance than any other layperson . Having the virus gives you no automatic knowledge other than your own experience . Any advice legal or medical that I have given has come from a licensed doctor and my own legal training , also you may notice that i send questioners ,no matter how foolish onto ways to educate themselves , with a bit of humor and consternation , you had posted to one questioner that you for your own "mental health" were going to take a break , I think it's time to put down the banner and let other voices not yet compassion burnt out advice others . As you know most of them end up being negative , but to them the anxiety and fear are real , even if grossly misplaced , an open hand , not a slapping hand is warranted.
I stand by my advice , if he truly believes she is out to harm others the condom won't protect them as she can easily rip or remove it during passion, no one is safe ultimately if one is out to get another . He has every right and responsibility to report her to authorities and let them INVESTIGATE and find cause , yes, I do believe in the presumption of innocence .
BTW , you post here so often you ought to make it clear you are NOT a medical professional , and while the advice is for the most part sound , it comes from a Hiv positive person and from a personal perspective not necessarily a medical one .
I'm not going to throw a pity party for you , I read your circumstance and we'll leave it at that , I hope I'm not reading YOU would agree if she really was trying to infect others that it's their resposibility above and beyond practicing safe sex if they get infected by someone purposely trying to infect . This answer is not personal but business, and my answer to him stands . If you for a minute think the "law" anywhere operates
like a moralistic power play I can easily free you from that delusion , if she's trying to infect others she needs and should be stopped , it can be done . . .
Also, just to boil your blood over there was a blog in Boston's craiglist recently that suggested all Hiv positive persons be tatooed below the navel / above the crotch with some universal symbol identifying them as Hiv positive , you may be surprised to read that i sent private e-mails refuting any idea that it could or would pass here , but i can assure you there are goverments that would implement such a rule , that would be the ones that investigate serial infectors because self-checking and evil infectors force a hand of wrath not the ones who laugh it off . . .The lesson here may partly be that push people to an edge and they are not going to come back at you "purring " . Defending the idea of someone purposely harming another will get you those "rights' curtailed in some places , and in ways you can be sure you will not like .
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"I stand by my advice , if he truly believes she is out to harm others the condom won't protect them as she can easily rip or remove it during passion, no one is safe ultimately if one is out to get another . He has every right and responsibility to report her to authorities and let them INVESTIGATE and find cause , yes, I do believe in the presumption of innocence."
Where's the probable cause dippy? Your fear of people with HIV is showing.
All he's got is the fact he had sex and he NOW HAS freaked out and has decided she is running around trying to infect people...Unless the guy tests positive and can show a relation between his infection and her. There is NO probable cause to investigate.
Under your rules any man or woman that gets mad at someone they had sex with can just run down to the nearest police station and start an investigation. No proof, just all on a person's whim. Did you tell the guy that if he did that and she doesn't have HIV, as possibility, then she could turn around and sue him for defamation
I don't just live with HIV. I happen to be quite active in the HIV community all the way from doing risk assessment and prevention education at the local ASO level right up to being a past chairman of a regional Ryan White consortia that sets policy within the state.
Your just mad cause I jumped on you for pushing a test that is not recommeded for diagonistics. Again you had multiple negative tests done by the PROPERLY before you had a PCR which by my guess the doctor gave you to try and get you off the worried well wagon.
People with HIV have rights perhaps you'd remember that if did something useful like volunteer your services to an ASO instead of advising people start a witch hunt.
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Here's the only thing I whole heartedly agree with you on , and I'm already doing it , in my own way , that is finding a way to get involved . I'm going on local craigslist and advising young gay , ,bi, STR8's, experimenters about the risks they're taking ,( i cannot believe the amount of guys posting for BB "breeding )
and how to educate themselves , where to get tested locally ---I certainly know those places !
He cannot get sued for reporting something , unless he actually filed and swore charges , but reporting and investigators finding no cause to charge is not actionable . local police get thousands of tips, complaints , 911's a year , it's the job, some go on to detectives some stop at the complaint . I think he is within the realm of an investigator to listen and get the actual facts of his suspicions and make a determination .
What he should do is probably get the woman to go testing with him .
You're going have to raise the conversation up above dippy, something I can promise you no one would ever identify me as . I'm going to get "mad".....? What, you think I'm some 9 year old ? ....Please !
He said she exhibited behavior that gave him suspicions . My immediate advice was to see professionals (doctors) ,but still, if she was an evil spreader, there's a lot of people she could infect during that time . So , he risks being a fool for reporting and perhaps some verbal retribution from the woman , big deal , if she has nothing to hide she should get tested with or without him .
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