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Scaredbuthopeful
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How Dare This Forum Play Doctor.
      #23257 - 10/11/01 08:24 PM

Can anyone tell me that for certian no one will test positive after 3 month window. NO! There are cases were people have converted after the 3 month window, and this forum chooses to ignore these cases. One day one of these people my ask for your counsel on this forum and you will tell him he is fine after 3 months, when he is not and may go around infecting other people. I understand you want to fill people with hopes but what you people are doing is cruel. You claim that the cdc is to conservative. Should we not be conservative when it comes to health issues? Please, 6 months is the only way to be certain. Thank you.



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Re: How Dare This Forum Play Doctor. new
      #23258 - 10/11/01 08:38 PM

I truly hate this bickering about windows, but your ignorance has caused me to post on this issue. First, the cases where this did happen are quite few. Yes, it can happen, but it is very unlikely. Many countries have changed their window to 3 months and the CDC is expected to follow up soon. Second, if you want to get technical, there have been cases that have been beyond 6 months even. Maybe you should change your 100% at 6 months to 99.999% and get tested at a year. You are not a doctor either, so neither us have room to argue about who is right here. Personally, I believe that it is 3 months. Why? Because I have not read blindly about the windows on here. I researched many sources and they point pretty much to 3 months with some exceptions. I know they are exceptions, and others should too, but if you read about these exception cases, you would realize that they were not normal people like you and me. Your concern is appreciated, but do your homework before you come preaching the gospel of the CDC.



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babyruth
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Re: How Dare This Forum Play Doctor. new
      #23259 - 10/11/01 10:05 PM

I tested negative at 8 months after exposure , but i have told to test again at 1 year (because i had a REAL exposure to HIV) so i can really close this chapter of my life and move on, i'll do it in order to have a peace of mind.

What i want to say is that the window period is always gonna be as long as you want it to be, until you feel comfortable with your results.

4 weeks negative test is a good sign and if you test negative at 3 months is MOST likely (99.9%) you gonna test negative at 6 months but the ONLY THING in life that is 100% SURE is the fact that we all gonna die when we'll have to not a little sooner or later, until that we have to do our best.

God Bless.

R.



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Re: How Dare This Forum Play Doctor. new
      #23261 - 10/11/01 10:54 PM

by pointing your finger at the people in this forum, you are indirectly pointing your finger at the hiv specialists. they are the ones providing their insight based on years of direct study. do you read their responses? i don't think so. educate yourself my friend, with some current data. the people here are just relaying what they have researched in hopes of helping someone. that's all. to accuse these people of cruelty is just plain sad. i trust what these people say, i trust what the experts say. 3 months is 99.9 percent conclusive. 6 months is 99.99 percent conclusive. if you would like to fret over the logistics of this difference, then that is your choice. chances are, if one is not satisfied with 99.9 percent, i'll have a hard time believing that one would be comfortable with 99.99 percent. you'll never be there my friend. that 100 percent is just a dream. be safe and good luck.



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Read this web page new
      #23262 - 10/12/01 02:27 AM

why dont you read from the experts who study HIV
there are plenty of the.
I remember reading a post that one of the doctors said he did a study of 28 men who were High risk for HIV ALL OF THEM seroconverted within 3 months 21 days was the average.
also CDC will have a big anouncement with their new Revised Guidlines in November.
I think they will join the world community and say 3 months is the outer limit to the testing period and that only a small number of people will test positive after 3 months .
You must work for the CDC or a very narrow minded person to come into this area and say these things when Doctors are saying something different.




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guess
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Re: How Dare This Forum Play Doctor. new
      #23263 - 10/12/01 02:33 AM

I have been interested in HIV
I have spent many hours reading about HIV
The 6 month window for testing is old and out dated.



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25 days new
      #23264 - 10/12/01 02:38 AM

50% are going to seroconvert at 25 days
double that then double that !
3 months is more than enough time to
allow pass before testing.



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joe
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Re: 25 days new
      #23267 - 10/12/01 08:58 AM

It's not that easy! You cannot simply multiply the average seroconversion time by 2 to say that ALL people will seroconvert at day 50. The issue is that the seroconversion curve is skewed and that more than 99 % will show show up positive after 3 months if they are infected.



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Anonymous
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Lets play Doctor new
      #23276 - 10/12/01 02:51 PM

you are sick in the head son
I suggest you get on Anti anxiety drugs.

your welcome.



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Gargle my sack new
      #23280 - 10/12/01 04:15 PM

You have NO information that anyone has EVER tested past three months (dare I say 8 weeks) with the 3rd generation Elisa - it has NEVER been documented.



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guess
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Re: How Dare This Forum Play Doctor.???? new
      #23288 - 10/12/01 06:17 PM

It wasnt me who wrote this. Find another user whoever you are



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Anonymous
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Re: 25 days new
      #23307 - 10/12/01 11:52 PM

Its your brain that is skewed. Almost all will test positive if infected by 3 months. That is not a theory but a scientific fact.



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Re: Gargle my sack new
      #23342 - 10/14/01 12:08 PM

Documented and proven:

Seroconversion with positive HIV serology generally takes place at an average of 3 weeks after transmission with the recombinant antigens now used in standard third generation EIA (AIDS 1995;9:597). A healthcare worker with occupationally-acquired HIV infection was EIA negative at 9 months and seroconverted at 11 months post exposure; this is one of the longest delays in seroconversion reported to the CDC (N Engl J Med 1997;336:919). As noted the CTL response is associated with a sharp reduction in quantitative viral load in blood, and clinical recovery from the acute retroviral syndrome. It now appears that using standard serologic tests, >95% of patients seroconvert within 5.8 months following HIV transmission (Am J Med 1994;96:42; BMJ 1988;296:593; Lancet 1989;2:637; J AIDS 1993;6:1339).



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Re: Gargle my sack new
      #23343 - 10/14/01 12:15 PM

The documentation post was not meant to scare anyone, I firmly believe that a 3 month test is as good as it gets, unless you are one amazing person who has no immune system (thus, you wouldn't produce anti-bodies). But, to say it has not happened or documented is horse poop. [poor] Anyways, [anywhere] 3 months is a good enough test everyone should be able to rest after three months and know they are not positive, a 6 month test doesn't hurt as a follow up and to clear all scare out of a person.

HIV [hive] shouldn't [shout] scare people as much as it does, millions live with it, and it does not mean you will die right away or even any time soon. You have a better chance of getting hit by a car than dying from HIV. [hive] Listen to the couple of positive people on this board, they live with it, and sure doesn't seem to ruin their lives.

Oh well, who ever posted the 400+ pages of reading, pretty good post.





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