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scaredstiff
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Worried well with alarming symptoms, few questions
      #226261 - 03/28/07 01:28 AM

Long post, I apologize. But alot is going on with my body right now.

I am a previously healthy, 24 yo white male. I am exactly nine weeks post-exposure, so I am still in my 13-week window period. From reading Dr. Bob's past posts, I know this to be a low-risk exposure, and yes the risk is real. I believe the lenght of the post will attest to my sincerity. I have yet to test, but will do so at 13-weeks. I'm just waiting for 13-weeks becuase I don't have insurance and can't afford to take so many tests.

About 40 hours after my exposure, I slept with my wife. We used a condom, but it broke and I ejaculated inside of her. Exactly one week later she came down with what appeared to be the flu: sore throat, bilateral swollen submandible lymph nodes, a dry cough, and for one night a fever of 99.7 F. She did not complain of nausea, diarhhea, muscle or joint aches and pains, fatigue (she's a runner and actually kept running 3-5 miles a day throughout this period of sickness), and did not experience any night sweats. And no signs of a rash. One day she had to leave work becuase, in her words, she felt like she had the flu. Her symptoms lasted about a week, but then lingered for another week or so. That is, her dry cough and sore throat would be present at night but not during the day. What makes me think this was ARS, and not the normal flu, was that I did not catch it even though we were in such close proximity the whole time. Needless to say, this kicked my HIV anxiety into high gear.

About 2 weeks after my exposure, I started to feel a slight burning sensation in my groin lymph nodes. My wife likes to drape her legs over me while we sleep, but this burning sensation made it highly uncomfortable. I also had the feeling that I had been kicked in the area between my testicles and anus (the perinium). Then I started to experience a burning sensation in my armpits. This burning sensation then spread to the muscles that run down the front of either side of my neck, and my forearms. It was particularly bad at night, and would come and go throughout the day. And my neck felt like it had battery acid flowing through the veins. My face even occasionally got into the mix with a sunburn feeling--in February!! Tylenol helped the pain, but as it got closer to the time for the next dose the pain would resurface. I am very frightened becuase I've read that this type of peripheral neuropathy is very common during ARS and early HIV disease.

I am not sure if I had any swollen lymph nodes in these areas during this time. I am not a doctor so I am not sure what is abnormal and have heeded the warnings on this site not to feel for them. My wife is very thin, so the swelling of her lymph nodes was visually obvious.

At about the same time, I noticed the appearance of little pinpoint-sized bright red dots on my skin. I have about 10 on each upper arm, one on my right forearm, and four on my chest. All of them are still present to this day. They look like the picture of petechiae that is on wikipedia.

About 3 weeks after my exposure I started to feel a kind of burning and almost swelling sensation in my lower back. It was at the level of my hips, evenly spaced on both sides of my spine. It didn't really hurt, but I definitely could tell something was different down there. This same sensation then began in the area where my buttocks and upper thighs meet. This feeling persisted for about three weeks, at which time I started to experience a dull stabbing pain in the middle of my back. It was pretty intense though, enough to make me buy a heating pad and be bedridden for two days. Tylenol did nothing for the pain, so I started taking Ibuprofen and the pain. along with the burning, swelling sensation in my lower back,went away two days later, four days after it started. But on the last day of the back pain I got pretty nauseous but did not vomit, although I had to lie down and take deep breaths several times. It felt like I had a lump in my stomach and swelling in my cheeks/salivary glands (now I'm afraid that my parotid glands are swollen). I was delighted that the pain subsided, but just this weekend the pattern repeated itself, only this time the dull stabbing middle back pain began the day after the burning swelling sensation began in my lower back. I'm writing this post with a heating pad on my back and Ibuprofen in my system.

I have mild eczema on my hands. It is very symmetrical and is located on the inside of my index fingers and the top of my pinky fingers. It's been there since I was about 10. About 4 weeks after my exposure I noticed redness on my left pinky where the fingerprint is. Over the next few days the skin started to callous and look exactly like the other areas of eczema on my hands. I also developed a similar patch between the knuckles of my left index and middle fingers.

A week after my skin started acting up, my left pinky and ring finger began to tingle and go numb. I've experienced waking up to numb hands, but these days it's only my pinky and ring finger that fall asleep. The feeling comes and goes and has been absent more recently, but my fingers and part of my palm will still go numb occasionally, sometimes they will feel cold, but not be so to the touch. And sometimes I notice my forearms is numb. It is especially bothersome when I'm typing or leaning on my elbow. I've made a conscious effort to keep my left arm straight during sleep and not to rest on my elbow when I'm using the computer, and these measures have seemed to help. The position of my arm, especially my elbow, helps out. But I've read that mononeuropathies such as this can present at anytime during HIV disease. And it is the ulnar nerve that controls the ring and pinky finger. Cubital tunnel syndrome, which this sounds like, is Carpal Tunnel Syndrome's complement.

Within the last week I have developed an apthous ulcer on my lower lip. It started out like a cut, but it's definitely an ulcer--and I've bit into the damn thing three separate times while eating! I've had some days of loose stool, but only one evening of its being diarrhea, this is, truly and explosively liquid shits--and lots of it.

And just last night, after brushing my teeth, I noticed bleeding from the gums of one of my bottom front teeth. But no dry mouth (well, only in the mornings) or dry tongue, no white or hairy tongue, and no thrush.

The only glands I've truly felt are those that are located directly under my earlobe, and I'm pretty sure I've felt them previously, before this whole shit experience began. Some days they will be hard as rocks, other days not there at all. Sometimes one will be larger than the other, and at other they will be the same size.

And finally I've experienced a marked increase in the number of floaters I've been seeing. Sometimes they are black spots, other times they are tranparent spots, and some are even transparent strings that float across my vision.

The strange thing is, for all these symptoms that I have experienced I have not had a single day of fever in 9 weeks (I've checked every day). My throat hasn't been soar, and I haven't had a cough. I haven't had the chills. I never had a rash like the sunburn they describe as the typical rash for ARS--just what I'm convinced are petechiae on parts of my body. My muscles and joints don't ache. I haven't lost any weight other than that which I can attribute to a decreased appetite and increased running and lifting weights(gotta do something to relax). Basically, I never had a flu- or mono-like illness--only the other kinds of symptoms which seem more HIV-specific. My wife had the flu-like illness, but has since been completely asymptomatic. Together, it seems we have experienced the universe of ARS symptoms. Even in this she is my complement--truly my better half!

Today, I still have the pinpoint-sized red dots on my skin, I'm experiencing numbness in my left pinky and ring fingers, and having back pain. It is the persistance of these symptoms that is alarming, as well as their timing after my exposure. What also frightens me is that my wife experienced a flu of sorts 6 days after exposure. and I didn't catch it. They say ARS symptoms don't present within a matter of days, it takes weeks, i.e. more than 1). I feel so sorry my wife, for whom I am infinitely more concerned that myself!! She is such a sweet and loving person, and I love her to the depths of my being. She is my world. The thought of her being sick because of me is making me want to kill myself. The only thing that is stopping me is that, if we are truly sick, then I have a duty to take care of her as long as I am physically able. I just read this post and say, "i'm glad I'm not that guy." But I am. I feel that I am doomed.

In light of the foregoing, my questions are as follows:

1. Is it possible to infect another person 40 hours after your initial exposure?

2. Is it possible for ARS symptoms to appear exactly one week after exposure?

3. Are the above-described burning sensations consistent with ARS peripheral neuropathy?

4. Can petechiae present as a symptom of ARS?

5. Do petechiae persist for weeks or do they heal shortly after appearance?

6. Can HIV itself cause eczema, or can it exacerbate pre-existing eczema?

7. Is it possible to experience a noticeable increase in eye floaters this soon after exposure?

8. Is it possible to experience early symptoms of HIV disaese this soon after possible infection without ever having a fever? If yes, how likely is it?

I apologize for the abundance of questions, but I am so afraid of what my body is experiencing. Then I experienced symptoms some of which are consistent with both ARS and early symptomatic HIV disease.

If anyone has any insight, or if anyone is exoeriencing or has experienced the same constellation of symptoms, I'd be delighted to hear from you.

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phil
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Re: Worried well with alarming symptoms, few quest new
      #226266 - 03/28/07 02:22 AM

The length of your post and detail testifies to your ANXIETY! That is what you have. I would talk to your doc about getting antianxiety meds today.

Although I am not a doctor nor can anyone be diagnosed online, I would be willing to bet a large sum of money this is your problem and not HIV. Besides, a lot depends on what your exposure actually was? Protected sex and bj's are non-exposures etc etc....

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phil
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Re: Worried well with alarming symptoms, few quest new
      #226267 - 03/28/07 02:41 AM

FYI, I know someone who is HIV+ (twice as in superinfection) and for a very large percentage of people, you KNOW when you have SARS. As in, you'll be the sickest you ever been in your life and it happens at once. You don't get multiple symptoms coming and going over weeks and weeks. The upper trunk very distinctive rash, very high temp - 102 +, and extremely swollen glands, I believe to be the most usual symptoms along with flu like muscle aches. This was described to me by the guy I know and my doctor confirmed this as well during a visit. She has treated about 5 persons with SARS in her career and each time these things occurred. She said, "you don't have to search for symptoms bc you'll be about as sick as you've ever been in your life."

The usual caveat of it's not the same for everyone still applies. I mean some people placed in a room full of people with chicken pocks for a day won't get chicken pocks. I guarantee I would get chicken pocks though.


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Jackie__Blue
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Re: Worried well with alarming symptoms, few quest new
      #226274 - 03/28/07 08:17 AM

Gotta agree with Phil. The length of your post only testifies to your anxiety. The fact you don't say what your exposure was and only allude to the fact that Dr. Bob has said other cases like yours are only low risk leads me to believe that in your mind you took the words no-risk or theoritical risk and turn it into something to be worried about. I'm betting you got one of those no-risk blow jobs.

As to the rest of your post. Well nothing you describe would have any reasonable person jumping up and down say, by God, that's HIV!!!

Just try to relax, get a test to confirm your status and then deal with the guilt you have about screwing around on your wife.

PHIL - Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)is a completely different disease and has nothing to do with HIV infection or the initial illness that MAY occur during seroconversion, Acute Retroviral Syndrome (ARS).

It is true people MAY experience flu-like symptoms, however many people may only experience very mild or no symptoms of ARS, which is one of the contributing factors to the continuing rate of new infections. 1 out of every 3 people infected with HIV have no clue they have HIV.

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phil
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Re: Worried well with alarming symptoms, few quest new
      #226302 - 03/28/07 10:11 PM

I stand corrected. I misspoke - ARS. However, there are textbook answers and there is real life experience. I believe real life experience anyday. My friend (who had the same thing twice), people he knows, and my doctor have all told me the same thing. Put it this way, I believe more people think they have HIV and the symptoms than persons who actually got it and had no symptoms. Like I said, I would get chicken pocks. Also, those person you allude to may have dismissed their symptoms as the flu or some other momentary bad illness..

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sadface
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Re: Worried well with alarming symptoms, few questions new
      #226307 - 03/29/07 01:28 AM

Whew..what the heck was your exposure?? That would help us here.
Go get your test!! It will show up now if you have been infected. Quit torchering yourself.
SF

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Jackie__Blue
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Re: Worried well with alarming symptoms, few quest new
      #226314 - 03/29/07 08:17 AM

Now that you know that I have HIV, don't you feel foolish. You should.

I believe in real life experience also. I've got 10 years real life experience which trumps your paranoid NON-exposure and a friend who happens to have HIV and not enough sense to protect himself from re-infection and allowing himself with a weaken immune system to be exposed to a whole host of other STIs.

Oh and going around saying 'I have a friend that is HIV+, so therefore I know and understand everything about this disease' is a bit ridiculous. It’s also a lot like a white person in the 60's and early 70's saying they have a black friend so therefore understood the oppression and the ensuing fight for civil rights in order to try to prove they were hip and socially with it. Instead they just came off looking like a joke.

I also have friends (notice plural) and a husband that are HIV+. Not one of us has an identical experience with ARS or disease progression. It affects each person differently and that's about the only given with this disease.

Besides MY personal experience, I decided that since I have to live with this I should try to find a positive outlet so I started several years ago to work with people in terms of risk assessment and education, both in prevention and managing this disease.

By the way. It is a scientific fact that between 50% to 90% of people will show some level of symptoms of ARS. The other 10% to 50% will have no symptoms. Again, this is one of the reasons the CDC estimates that there are 300,000 (1 in 3) people walking around in the US infected and don't know it. No one should ever go by symptoms to determine if a test is necessary. That’s why risk assessment is important.

For such a know it all, I'm surprised you even turned to this board for help, with your stupid straw problem. Here's a thought. Leave the Coke alone and you won't have a problem with being paranoid about getting HIV from a straw.


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simonelove
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      #226324 - 03/29/07 08:26 PM

hi

wow you must really be worried. nothing can give you peace of mind besides getting tested. if you want you can continue to read more about seroconversion. good luck to.

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