|
|
reoccuring herpes breakouts
#211474 - 10/12/06 02:14 PM
|
Reply
|
Quote
|
|
|
I have read somewhere that if you have herpes and you have reoccuring breakouts that can be an indication of HIV. Is there any truth to this?
Post Extras:
|
|
|
|
Hello,
I am also aware, that some symptoms are due to stress, which is called psychosomatic disorder. the only way to know for a fact si to be tested.
Post Extras:
|
|
RevAnn
|
|
Guru
|
|
|
|
|
Reged: 08/17/06
|
|
Posts: 245
|
|
Loc: MO
|
|
|
No. Just because a person has reoccuring breakouts does not mean they have HIV.
--------------------
Namu-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
Post Extras:
|
|
|
|
Yes, it can be an indication of HIV, but reoccuring outbreaks can be caused by other reasons.
The only way to confirm your status is to test.
Post Extras:
|
|
RevAnn
|
|
Guru
|
|
|
|
|
Reged: 08/17/06
|
|
Posts: 245
|
|
Loc: MO
|
|
|
Reoccuring outbreaks are not an indication of HIV or AIDS. Get your facts right.
Nowhere on the CDC site does it include herpes as any kind of sign or symptom of HIV. What it does say is that a person who has HIV and herpes..
"Immunocompromised patients may have prolonged or severe episodes of genital, perianal, or oral herpes" per CDC
Herpes is NOT a sign or symptom of HIV!
--------------------
Namu-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
Post Extras:
|
|
|
|
It can be an indication because the imune system would be fighting hiv which then youd see more hpv or herpes. Inless you had a high risk exposure I wouldnt view it that way. I know a girl who had herpes and she was neg. Well, she had to go to the church and have women pray for her because they were so severe. She had a bad case of herpes but she didnt have hiv.
Post Extras:
|
|
|
|
You are correct that Herpes outbreaks are not a sign of HIV, but it can be a sign of HIV infection. More frequent or more servere outbreaks should be a red flag to a doctor to suggest a test for HIV.
Doesn't mean that the person is infected, beccause there are other reasons for these types of outbreaks, however a prudent doctor would suggest a test.
It's the exact same siutation as a woman that is having reoccuring yeast infections. It can be an indication of HIV infection and testing for HIV is recommended. Don't believe me? Go read the medical insert that comes with Monistat.
GET... your facts right.
Post Extras:
|
|
RevAnn
|
|
Guru
|
|
|
|
|
Reged: 08/17/06
|
|
Posts: 245
|
|
Loc: MO
|
|
|
I get my facts straight from the CDC, where are your?
Herpes is NOT an indication!
"Herpes may play a role in the spread of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Herpes can make people more susceptible to HIV infection, and it can make HIV-infected individuals more infectious."
No where on the CDC site does it say that herpes is an indicator. Herpes is far to common to be used as an indicator.
And before you tell me to get my facts straight, why don't you register!
--------------------
Namu-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
Post Extras:
|
|
|
|
I don’t know why you want to dispute this. These are facts:
People with HIV have up to a 90% rate of co-infection with Herpes.
People with reduced immunity can be subject to more severe and frequent outbreaks. You have to agree on this point because you posted the following: “"Immunocompromised patients may have prolonged or severe episodes of genital, perianal, or oral herpes" per CDC”
Again, quoting you, quoting the CDC:
“Herpes may play a role in the spread of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Herpes can make people more susceptible to HIV infection, and it can make HIV-infected individuals more infectious."
The CDC estimates that 1 in 3 people infected with HIV are unaware that they even are HIV+. In this country that means there are roughly 300,000 people walking around with uncontrolled HIV infection.
Hence. Someone presents with more severe or frequent outbreaks of herpes should be tested for HIV. WHY????? Because there MAY be a chance that they are co-infected with HIV. NO ONE ever said it was a given, even the original poster said ‘could’.
Since you are so sure that Herpes and HIV have nothing to do with each other, you won’t be interested in the following article about Valacyclovir as a medication that can suppress (get this!) HIV-ASSOCIATED RECURRENT GENITAL HERPES.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/462730
and
http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/recent/std/121302a.html
and
http://hivmedicine.com/textbook/derma.htm#app1
and
http://www.famvir.com/info/treating/diagnosed/hiv.jsp
I’m simply amazed that someone who says she lives with this would tell people if you have herpes and outbreaks are getting worse you DON”T need to test for HIV, because Herpes has nothing to do with HIV. I guess they should just pop a couple of Valtrex while they COULD be continuing to unknowingly spread HIV, because the great RevAnn has dismissed their very VALID question as frivolous.
Obviously, registering doesn’t make one right.
Post Extras:
|
|
|
|
The main issue is how frequent the outcomes are. Herpes is permanently present and reccurent viral infections. There are HSV1(oral type), HSV2(genital type), as well as Herpes Zoster (caused by VZV-varicella zoster virus). Any of those can be reccurent frequently as your immune defence becomes weak, due to the stress, or other infection. Prolonged infections of any kind, and the symptoms more severe than expected for the usual disease, can indicate HIV testing as a final option of trying to determine the cause of very severe and frequent infections. I hope that HIV is not your problem, as Herpes and its reccurence itself does not connect with HIV presence alone. Other opportunistic infections (candidasys, criptoccocosis, toxoplasmosis etc..) should also occur. The best thing is to be tested if the episodes are very much reccurent..Is there any reason to believe that ur HIV positive? Did u have any contact which might be the risk=?
Post Extras:
|
|
RevAnn
|
|
Guru
|
|
|
|
|
Reged: 08/17/06
|
|
Posts: 245
|
|
Loc: MO
|
|
|
You are such an Ass. I never said don't get tested! I said that just because a person has herpes and is having more outbreaks does not mean the person has HIV or AIDS.
To say that just because the outbreaks are more frequent and that is an indication of HIV infection is WRONG! By your standards, if a person is having more outbreaks than they should be tested for HIV instead of seeing if there is anything else going on that could cause the problem in the first place!
You have totally misrepresented what I have said. I encourage everyone to be tested for HIV no matter what they should have a base line. But just because a person has herpes does not mean they are coinfected.
I also never said that HIV and Herpes have nothing to do with each other. I anwsered the orignal poster that herpes is not an indication of HIV infection. It is not. So all the data you have provided has to do with coinfection, but again, herpes in and of it's self is not an indication of HIV.
Nor, by the way, did I say that if you have herpes you don't need to be tested. If fact, I believe that if you have put yourself at risk for any STD you in fact should be tested for HIV. But you just like to twist things to make yourself sound smarter.
By the way, you gave stats on people who already are coinfected, but how many people have herpes and not HIV? You are showing only stats that back up your "truth"!
By the way did I mention that you are an ASS!
--------------------
Namu-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
Post Extras:
|
Previous
Index
Next
Flat
Threaded
