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Condoms
      #210338 - 10/05/06 03:22 AM

Well I practice safe sex all the time but now I am giving it up altogether. Screw it ,nothing is safe enough for me anymore. Condoms are the best but not as safe as I thought. Damn, this virus!!!!!! Condoms even when used 100% safe seem to not give you 100% protection. I guess I need 100% no risk but that's me. Fuck it I'm pissed I am doomed to no sex life. Just my luck. I also like more than one so that is even more stress.

It's late, I'm going to bed.

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Re: Condoms new
      #210344 - 10/05/06 05:46 AM

hey...
well to start with, condoms are 99.99% safe, if used correctly. like you, i am so fucking afraid of getting something, anything, stds, rash, etc. so, i do wear more than one condom always, for the last 20 years. the only breakage i had with condoms , and got really scared was when i was using just one. i know they say, double bagging is the worst, but knock on wood, has not happens yet.

i have been with hiv poz guys, an i have told them i use more than one, and they are ok with it, so far i have not contract it anything, and hope i never will.

do not give up on using them, use 3 if that makes you feel safer(i do), but going bare is 200% risky.

hand jobs, blow jobs, kissing etc, is ok with out protection to certain degree, so do not ruin your sex life with worries, just put a rubber on that baby and stick it in where you like...but always, always use protection and water based lube.
i hope this help.

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Re: Condoms new
      #210345 - 10/05/06 05:47 AM

thats fine give up on your "self" (thats the real problem...)


latex or polyurethane condoms when used properly are 100% protection from hiv. Coming here to display a false message, just to provoke fear in others, shows how childish you are. Perhaps you arent mature enough to handle sex yet.



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Re: Condoms new
      #210599 - 10/05/06 05:30 PM

So who are you? Mr. expert. I am not spreading fear dumb shit I just happen to know what I am talking about. I don't want any risk that's my call. condom are the best avalible but NOT 100%. Now you stop speading B/S.

Condom Effectiveness

Condoms are effective because they block contact with body fluids that cause pregnancy and sexually transmitted infection. Most reports of condom failure are the result of inconsistent or incorrect use, not breakage (Macaluso, et al., 1999). A recent study of college students found that condom use errors were very common — 40 percent of the young men surveyed reported that, within the previous three months, they had not left space for ejaculate at the tip of a condom, and 15 percent had taken a condom off before completing intercourse (Crosby, et al., 2002). In the U.S., the actual breakage rate is a low two per 100 condoms (CDC, 1998). High failure rates in some studies occur because many people lie about contraceptive use to shift the responsibility for an unintended pregnancy to a "faulty" contraceptive. Such over-reporting artificially inflates failure rates (Trussell, 1998).



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Re: Condoms new
      #210619 - 10/05/06 08:20 PM

while you wanna doubt me, google yer ass off and find the study between 100's of sero-discordant couples, closely monitored for PROPER condom usage, in that study condoms have been proven 100% effective in the protection of hiv transmission......if you are too lazy and still want to say i spread bullshit on this site......post your name and address, if you have the balls to, and we can settle this in person, ill give ya the actual study notes, after i whoop your ass.....

i dont expect you to, as you are one of the anonymous mental midgets on this site, too scared of entering an email for the sake of registering....LOL. Perhaps its the fact you may be too stupid to fill out the registration, but nonetheless, talk your shit about me, im a big boy, ....when it comes down to it, you dont have the ass required to back your mouth up.....


in closing, soon people will have a new place, that will literally smoke the other "HIV communities".....and yes, its brought to you, by yours truley, AIDS2HIV.......and before you think about, registration is required to even post the site, and bullshit like you, will be banned on site, forever. Enjoy this site, because soon, you will see, you anonymous fucks are the only ones left on it.......to do what? to spread your bullshit of course.....to each other*

its long overdue, a community of HIV positives, who wont have to put up with your bullshit, as they help people who are genuine in thier concerns. All will be welcome, but rules will be followed.....or ya can go elsewhere*


and by the way, your research you posted, only proves what i said prior to be correct...PROPER as in correct condom usage, is 100% .......but if you the user arent, thats your problem* because you will break the condom or loss it off your pencil dick......so you remember that before you talk to me about this subject, because i will quote you....." I don't want any risk that's my call " then YOU need to quit having sex, because its YOU thats irresponsible, its YOU thats not 100%, the condoms are made to be, and when used properly, THEY ARE*

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Re: Condoms new
      #210621 - 10/05/06 08:52 PM

Actually neither condom manuf. or the CDC say that condom use is 100% effective. No one does. As you have said to people yourself. Nothing in life is ever 100%. Also if you are going to source a study to support your position, then at least give the source link, or website the information can be found, otherwise it's just a bunch of hot air that is unsubstaniated. I also challenge you to source links that show scientifically that proper condom use is 100%. You won't find a SINGLE reputable, scientific source that states that.

The orginial poster's position is exteme. After all he has a better chance of getting in a car accident, but the choice of risk that one is willing to take is strictly up to that person. Just because a person chooses not to take any risk and abstain doesn't make it a wrong thing to do for that person. Would you riduclue two people waiting until after marriage to have sex?

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Re: Condoms new
      #210623 - 10/05/06 09:04 PM

as i stated, you post yer name and adress, ill be happy to prove ya wrong......unfortunately, for you , your knowledge base is only internet information.......and well.......nota single case of transmission from kissing, has ever been proven or documented, and onlya single case has ever been reported, which was proven as a false claim........and yet the beloved CDC still states kissing as low risk.......science has even went on to prove that human saliva breaks down the hiv virus, rendering it untransmissable..so you believe what tyhey post on thier website if ya want....You only believe what YOU WANT to believe, I believe what i have learned, because my life depends on it......and do the work yourself, its a study done right here in the states, quite possibly conducted by project inform, in California......but as i stated prior....by all means quit having sex......stupid people shouldnt be allowed to breed anyways* i didnt realise you are the presidents offspring, i didnt think the bush's were welcome here.

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Re: Condoms new
      #210624 - 10/05/06 09:07 PM

[quote]Actually neither condom manuf. or the CDC say that condom use is 100% effective. No one does. As you have said to people yourself. Nothing in life is ever 100%. Also if you are going to source a study to support your position, then at least give the source link, or website the information can be found, otherwise it's just a bunch of hot air that is unsubstaniated. I also challenge you to source links that show scientifically that proper condom use is 100%. You won't find a SINGLE reputable, scientific source that states that.

The orginial poster's position is exteme. After all he has a better chance of getting in a car accident, but the choice of risk that one is willing to take is strictly up to that person. Just because a person chooses not to take any risk and abstain doesn't make it a wrong thing to do for that person. Would you riduclue two people waiting until after marriage to have sex? [/quote]


hell no, id bang the bridesmaids instead*

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Re: Condoms
      #210686 - 10/06/06 08:24 AM

Man you are a real "dickhead'. what ,you want to kick ass because someone has a different opinion than you. You want their names and address so you can show up at their door and assult & batter them? Now you want others to come to your bull shit site for info that you think is correct; man you are a nut case.
The fact is nothing is 100% safe and most people know that and that was the intent of my post. The post I cut was from Dr. Bob's site from planned parenthood, dickhead. It has been know for years that condoms even when used correctly have on occation not prevented pregnancies.

My post was that nothing is 100% and I felt bad about it. That's my call,dickhead. All should use them all the time however like anything else there is a minimal risk. Even a dickhead like you should know that.
BTW I would probably be able to kick your ass if you indeed showed up at my door.

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Re: Condoms new
      #210692 - 10/06/06 09:44 AM

Opinions are like assholes eveyone has one. If you want to live your life like a retard then do it on your own time. Medical science says something else but I guess you are smarter than that community too.

Go climb under a rock. I hear a meteor shower is comin.....

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Re: Condoms
      #210695 - 10/06/06 09:56 AM

Hmmmm Now let's see, if two out of 100 can become pregant with proper use that must mean sperm get in somehow. If sperm can get in so can HIV. So you hero's have all got your little dicks up tight from a innocent post. You are mean people who can only shout others down. You now want to fight? Gee just what everone wnats is to get into a blood fight with an HIV POZ person. What nuts you are. BTW are those your two little pussy cats in your piture? get waht a real man, I bet your a woman both of you. have a nice day you have taken this post to the gutter just like they do at Aidsmed. Your intolorent little mean people.


Condoms as Birth Control

Condoms are an effective, inexpensive form of birth control. Of 100 women whose partners use condoms inconsistently or imperfectly, 15 will become pregnant in the first year of use. Only two will become pregnant if condoms are used perfectly (Trussell, et al., on press). Unlike many other forms of birth control, condoms also protect against sexually transmitted infection. Additional advantages of condoms as birth control include: low cost, easy access, simple disposal, minimal side effects, and longer-lasting sex play. Using condoms can also enhance sexual pleasure by reducing anxieties about the risk of infection and pregnancy (Warner & Hatcher, 1998).



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Re: Condoms
      #210700 - 10/06/06 10:05 AM

[quote](Warner & Hatcher, 1998). [/quote]

old news....need i say more? Update your education*

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Re: Condoms
      #210705 - 10/06/06 10:26 AM

Florida and A2H both you decided the best course of action was to attack people, calling them names and threatening them. All because one person said, condoms are not 100% effective. That is the truth. His post was about the level of risk HE felt comfortable with and both of you jumped on him. He was NOT unreasonable.

Unreasonable would have been if he said he refused to work with someone because they have HIV.

Unreasonable would be if he was pushing a friend to break up with someone because the 'someone' was HIV+

Unreasonable would be if the poster refused to let children see their other parent because of HIV.

I completely understand the desire to get people to understand that there is no need to fear people with HIV. I know very well the uphill battle to get people to accept us and treat us as human beings. I get it.

But I also can understand that the knowledge that condons work 99% of the time leaves that 1% doubt that can be unnerving. Many of those sero-discordant couples you want to put out on parade had issues in the beginning about having sex. We see those issues arise on this board and others.

I also know that from a prevention side, we need to keep a bit of fear about HIV. It's lack of fear that brings on the complacency which is the cause for the new figures for new infections, which are not very encouraging.

As much as any of us would like to forget. We do harbor a deadly disease. You know that A2H. You're fighting for your very life as we write. Is it unreasonable to find in the world that for some people the risk even with a condom is too great. I don't think so.

It's a fine line to walk between teaching people that HIV is not easily transmitted and that for general contact and most sex acts it's a non-issue. But if it was a completely non-issue, non of us would be living with it today. I don't want people to be scared of me. And if one day I'm in a relationship with an HIV- person, I'll know they really do care if they can get over that little bit of fear, I imagine every HIV- person has about sex at first. If they can't, well I won't crucify them.

Being HIV+ doesn't mean you have to be bullies when dealing with HIV- people and their fears. You have the option of just not answering posts you disagree with, especially, if your personal lives are putting so much stress on you that all you can do is lash out, calling people names and threatening them and being completely disagreeable.

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Re: Condoms new
      #210714 - 10/06/06 11:05 AM

Because I choose to remain anon does not mean I spread mis-information. It's a cheap shot to try and win your side on that point, who I am does not change the information.

You and A2H are quick to say that condoms provide 100 effective protection, quick to say studies (well then, maybe one, from project inform...maybe) but neither of you are so quick to supply source links to this information. You won't find Dr. Bob saying that. You won't find the CDC saying that. They have cases of documentation. You won't find the GMHC saying that. You won't find The Body saying that. You won't find AIDSMEDS saying that. You won't find researchers saying that. It would be irresponsible to lead people to believe that condom use is effective 100% of the time.

I guess this also means that you are willing and able to take apart posters that have posted from time to time that they are infected and always used condoms. I suppose you are ready to take on the medical community that recommends anyone sexually active, even using condoms should be tested for HIV and other STDs once a year as part of their normal health routine. Now why would they say that if condoms are COMPLETELY effective?


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Re: Condoms
      #210843 - 10/07/06 03:34 AM

Thanks for the interresting post Anon. These two [aids2,fla]
really have gone off about my post. I guess they just can't stand the idea of common sense. All I ever said as you pointed out was that for ME condoms didn't give ME 100% protection.
As far as their nonsense posts condoms have not changed at all since 1997 so the date of that artical is meaningless..I also said that is was from Dr. Bob who they love.
FLA says it taked about pregnacies;well duhhh as I said that means sperm got in therefore HIV cann as well. maybe they thing the stork brings babies.
These two are really strange. They seem to want to get a data base of peoples email addresses and names. I would watch out for them.
I think they both are women by their post.
Agin, use condoms its the best there is besides abstanance.


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