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Oral thrush
#206674 - 09/10/06 01:37 PM
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Does anyone here know the incubation period for oral thrush between a possible HIV exposure and the first signs of a problem(white spots)? Is it a few days, a few weeks, a few months? I got tested 6 weeks after a possible HIV exposure and it was neg but now I am getting some bumps. I just want to know what the general incubation period is. Thanks
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Oral thrush is not a common symptom for acute HIV. If u r not a doctor, u can not diagnose oral thrush, what may seem like oral thrush to u, could possibly be a normal part of the anatomy. Do not self diagnose urself.
Just so u know, stress and anxiety causes dry mouth, which in turn cause the tongue to have a white coating on it.
If ur 6 weeks ELISA was -ve, I am certain ur 13 weeks will be negative. Dont symptom surf and just relax, u will be fine.
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Oral thrush is not a common symptom for acute HIV. If u r not a doctor, u can not diagnose oral thrush, what may seem like oral thrush to u, could possibly be a normal part of the anatomy. Do not diagnose urself.
Just so u know, stress and anxiety causes dry mouth, which in turn cause the tongue to have a white coating on it.
If ur 6 weeks ELISA was -ve, I am certain ur 13 weeks will be negative. Dont symptom surf and just relax, u will be fine.
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Thanks. I had a minimal exposure 6 months ago and tested neg after 6 weeks. The guy who tested me after I explained what the circumstances were said not to worry about it at all but then now I am getting some bumps inside my cheeks.l just wanted to know if I should get another test.I have been under a lot of stress though due to other issues.
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Can u please explain what ur exposure was? oral thrush is mostly seen in patients with very low CD4 count, so it is unlikely that u have oral thrush after 6 months of infection.
Oral thursh is sometimes seen in patients who are not HIV positive. I suggest u dont self diagnose, and to see a health care provider about ur oral symptoms. If ur exposure was unprotected intercourse or giving oral to a man, u will need to retest again for a 100% conclusive result. good luck
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Expert - I think you are referring of OHL in terms of - with lower CD4 counts.
Oral thrush is very common and has been around long before HIV. It's appearance has nothing to do with low CD4 counts.
The group with the largest occurance of oral thrush is babies.
And to the poster that first posted. Thrush, just like any other symptom that might be found in HIV infection is non-specific. Trying to match symptoms is a waste of time. If you are concerned about your status. Get a test.
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I was indeed talking about oral thrush that is associated with AIDS and thus low CD4 count. Indeed there are alot of causes for oral thrush, including diabetes, Mononucleosis, respiratory infections, some thyroid problems, even taking alot of antibiotics can kill certain bacteria in the mouth leading to this kind of fungal infection.
Bottom line is, symptoms do not mean anything, I was clear in explaining oral thrush associated with AIDS. Go get ur conclusive test, which i am sure will be negative and move on.. Good luck
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Expert.
Oral Thrush is not associated with AIDS because it is NOT considered an opportunitistic infection. It is much too common and does NOT depend on the lower CD4 points that are found in AIDS patients. The only OI that is NOT dependant on a less than 200 CD 4 count is KS, which can occur at any point during infection.
OHL - Oral Hairy Leukoplakia is the most common dental disease associated with AIDS.
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I am not here to argue with anybody. Oral thrush is indeed an opportunistic infection when it comes to HIV +ve folks. It is rarely seen in the early stages of the disease, usually appearing only when counts of helper T cells fall below 350. Although oral thrush is the least serious of the fungal infections that can affect HIV +ve folks, it may be an indication that HIV is worsening. Candida esophagitis, which occurs when thrush spreads to the esophagus, generally develops when T cell counts are 200 or less and is considered an AIDS-defining illness — an opportunistic illness that indicates a person with HIV is developing AIDS.
This does not mean that non HIV +ve people don't get it, but I am explaining the infection in relation to HIV/AIDS.
I totally agree that OHL is one of the first OI an HIV +ve individual can experience, even with CD4 count of >500. It is caused by the Epstein-Barr virus.
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Thanks to all who replied. I just guess I will get another test to know for sure. It is exactly 6 months after my possible exposure. Some lubricant that was on the outside of the condom after sex with a hooker smeared on the bottom half of my exposed penis (after intercourse). I quickly wiped it off & tested neg after 6 weeks but I was always a little nervous about it. Now 2 pussy type bumps inside my cheeks 6 months later.The counsellor who tested me said not to worry about it. Very scared though.
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No wonder the counselor told you not to worry.
YOU HAD NO RISK in the first place.
Expert:
From SF AIDS here is the list of CDC OI for AIDS.
While Candidiasis is included it does not cover the common thrush of the mouth. It covers thrush infections of the throat and lungs.
My own personal experience is that my having oral thrush awhile back was chalked up to antibiotics and not HIV. My medical status is still just HIV infection and not AIDS. Oral thrush is just not considered an AIDS defining illness.
Opportunistic Infections Included in the CDC's Definition of AIDS
Pneumocystis Carinii Pneumonia (PCP)
Kaposi's Sarcoma (KS)
HIV wasting syndrome
Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma
Cryptococcosis, extrapulmonary
HIV encephalopathy (AIDS Dementia)
Mycobacterium Avium Intracellulare (MAC or MAI)
Candidiasis of the esophagus, trachea, bronchi, or lungs
Cryptosporidiosis, chronic intestinal
Cytomegalovirus disease (CMV)
Tuberculosis (outside of the lungs)
Herpes simplex virus infection
Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy (PML)
Primary lymphoma of the brain
Toxoplasmosis of the brain
Histoplasmosis
Isoporiasis, chronic intestinal
Coccidioidomycosis
Salmonella septicemia
Bacterial infections, recurrent, <13 years
Lymphoid interstitial pneumonia/pulmonary lymphoid hyperplasia, <13 years.
Pulmonary tuberculosis
Recurrent bacterial pneumonia (two or more episodes in one year)
Invasive cervical cancer
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I had Thursh in my mouth for a week or so, dont know why extreme dry mouth and very stressed and depressed, i took a hiv test it was negative, i started feeling better thrush started going away.
you dont have to HIV to get thrush thats a fact. but i can understand your concern over it because i was in worse shape then you trust me.
if you truly had a real exposure and you have tested negative 13 weeks past exposure, then nothing to worry about.
that being said trush doesnt usually appear early in HIV infection i wont go as far as saying it never does, but its unlikly.
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To the last one who responded to me, thank you. I have been extremely stressed and depressed due to many things that are happening to me at once and they are all bad. It is very difficult on me right now and then to have the guilt and shame of a brief protected encounter with a hooker, getting some of her on me, and an HIV scare.Forget sex. All this is just not worth it anymore.No one needs this. I want to be happy again. I guess i will have to get another test which I am dreading and now I will know for sure.thank you to all who posted good responses which did allay my fears somewhat.
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