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Jackie_Blue
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Mandatory Testing
      #180075 - 03/15/06 04:54 PM

HIV2AIDS brought up an interesting point. That mandatory testing would rid us of the stigma that surrounds being HIV+. I'm just wondering, because over the years, the impression I've received from people scared to test was not that they were worried about the actual test. They were worried about how their lives would change for the worse and what would people say if they had a postive result.

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[quote] I think you are incorrect about how it would cut down on the stigma. After all the reason people avoid testing now is the stigma attached to this disease and the fact they would have to live with it if infected.[quote]

... i dont agree, more don't get tested out of fear of what people will think if they are so much as are seen going into an hiv clinic, than if they are diagnosed with it. That stigma would die, when everyone was made to test, it would become "routine" instead of gossip targets, jobs wouldnt be descriminating when they saw the REAL numbers of this disease. [/quote]

OK so we're both postive and the why or why not of testing is not an issue for us, so let's turn this over to the Negative folks. I really would like to hear the about the perceptions of negative people in terms of what they think it means to test.

In the realm of fearing to test what carries more weight as a reason for you not to test.

Fear someone you know might see you walking into the clinic or the fear of what people would say if they knew you were HIV+?

I'm not being a jerk, I really would like to know if you all think mandatory testing would get rid of the stigma that those of us with HIV live with.


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      #180101 - 03/15/06 06:13 PM

if the government wanted to control hiv this would be just one step

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      #180134 - 03/15/06 07:56 PM

Sometimes it's the great unknown that is hardest to handle. However wishing for HIV just so that you have a definitive answer isn't the best use of wishing.

I tend to agree that a lot, perhaps not all of your symptoms are based in anxiety, stress, what have you. Seriously, have you thought about some counseling. So far doctors haven't seen to be helping. What have you got to lose. Nothing.

If anything, a counselor could help you cope while you find out what is physically wrong with you, could help you keep from melting down like yesterday. Just a thought.

Maybe you have some strange illness, but it isn't fatal and perhaps it runs its course over a year or so. That's not out of the realm of possiblities. Mono takes a long time to clear up. EBV is a long term illness, but certainly one that can be dealt with. If you're gonna wish for disease, wish for something a bit less life threatening.

Now. No takers on my question? Seriously, what has been the greatest fear in regards to getting tested?

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      #180150 - 03/15/06 08:32 PM

I'll answer your question, since I postponed testing for five years after I had unprotected sex. I wasn't scared of someone seeing me take the test, or taking the actual test, but having to deal with the results if they were positive. If I didn't test I could just go on with my normal life, but if I tested than I might have to make some changes. Do you understand what I'm saying? It's hard to explain.

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      #180177 - 03/15/06 09:51 PM

personally i think all stigma is the same root, its a pride and ego thing, regardless what the circumstance...whether it be that people in rural areas, and tight knit small communities fear of what thier community is gonna think if they are known to be testing for HIV, or the big city metropolis areas that no one really pays attention who walks in the clinics, but when ya confirm and disclose then the same response is gotten, the stigma is the same, Fear is Fear, regardless of the label we put on it,mandatory testing will break that fear, because everyone would have to go through it...let me make it clear jackie thats just one of many small possiblities, the big things are the most important, the world or country would all know status, and would have accurate numbers to address. Also they would catch hiv in the early stages more frequent than ever, enough to delevop accurate research on the early development in human hosts. And let me echo, that mandatory testing alone isnt gonna change the hiv spectrum, a complete overhaul in ALL ares will... mandatory testing is just a good first step in my opinion, from what I've seen through both living with this myself, working with my ASO, and in my area.

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Re: Mandatory Testing new
      #180231 - 03/16/06 09:46 AM

hi

regards from india

Jackie i agree with what you say, you are spot on! however i guess spreading and sharing more information pertaining to hiv along with what you suggest looks good to me!

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      #180234 - 03/16/06 09:58 AM

Well we can agree to disagree.

I once told a co-worker that I had know for years that I was HIV+. Now this was just a casual relationship. Not like we were ever going to have sex. His first reaction. He instinctually stepped away from me. Now his reaction was not a conscience one. It just proves how deep the fear of this disease has enter the psyche. Mandatory testing will NEVER get rid of that.

EDUCATION is the key. Knowledge has always been the key to dissolution of prejudices and stigmas.

While I can see the merits of mandatory testing that doesn't mean it would work or it's a good idea. The pitfalls are dangerous. It's taking away a person's right to choose, very dangerous. The government gets involved in personal lives even more. EXTREMELY dangerous. It will never allievate the fear of this disease, but will help pinpoint exactly WHO to fear.

Mandatory interment of Japanense American on AMERICAN soil during WWII was thought to be a good idea.

Giving everyone a social security number for use only by the SSA was thought to be a good idea, yet today it's a number used to track all of us, by just about everyone.

Once Pandora's box has been opened, it can't be closed. History has shown us different.


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      #180245 - 03/16/06 10:38 AM

i dont disagree about education one bit but even the government is gonna have the say in that as well. They just denied Brazil, 40 mil in aids funding because Brazil wouldnt agree to preach abstinance only, as the education curricullum.
As far as rights, open your eyes, in todays world, the government listens to our phone conversations, etc. they track cars thru satelites,the whole 9 yards, you area little late on worryin of being controlled or monitored by government

you are insisting its the only step, its not, the whole system needs an overhaul honestly. I myself, was overlooked for this disease yrs ago, because i wasnt "gay"...so i had to practically die from it last year before i found out. Education is the biggest part of it, i fully agree but look at these boards alone, you can educate all day long, no matter who ya are, only a few "may" listen & heed. Uganda used a balanced system, while the education portion was based on the ABC program, they also tested and knew where they stood, when they addressed the issue. The world of aids should take heed at what they have done, but have they? nope, instead they took the success, and modified it to thier personal agenda such as the bush administration has done with it. So, there goes the education...Soon they will be teaching our kids that abstinance is the only way, and will lie about condoms, which is only gonna keep hiv killing people.

dont get me wrong, as i said, education is the single biggest thing this country, this world needs to do.....but until than,and even after than....the single most thing everyone could do, is to get tested. I know id rather know that my kids get tested regurlarly,even after they are out of my house. Than to have them have to go through what i have with it

i went on TV, done a 3 day series on living with hiv/aids, prevention,testing,stigma, etc....have had nothing but a positive reaction, have not encountered hate, sure there is the ignorant, I think the times are changing, and the stigma is too*...but i do respect & appreciate your opinion as well...

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