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IS THERE SUCH THING AS HIV-NEGATIVE AIDS?
#174239 - 02/09/06 04:32 AM
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As per the title, is there really such a thing?
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Symptoms of Autoimmune Diseases
Spouses and family members, even though someone may look perfectly healthy, if they have an autoimmune diseases, they are truly ill. It is not in their head.
The following symptoms are common in many, if not all, autoimmune diseases.
Fatigue: It’s not a good fatigue, from working hard, but an anxious, uncomfortable fatigue related to lack of sleep. Or a disruption of the energy production mechanism in cells, either from lack of oxygen, increased toxicity, infections or a malfunction of the mitochondria.
Sleep Disturbance: About 80% may wake up three or four times a night, or in some cases you don’t wake up, but in the morning you still feel like a truck ran over you. The reason for this is that subliminal seizures kick you out of stage 4, Delta sleep, to stage 1 sleep so you can’t sleep deeply and wake up not rested.
Short Term Memory Loss: Because of the low thyroid and heart complications typical in autoimmune diseases, there is a decrease in blood flow to the left lobe of the brain causing an oxygen deficiency in the brain. This can lead to the memory loss and forgetfulness that is common in autoimmune diseases.
Emotional Liability: Someone may cry more easily, be more anxious and fearful. This is caused by the illness, and is not a psychological reaction!
Depression: As with the emotional symptoms, the hypothalamus is involved. This is not clinical depression, but literally has a physical cause that is sometimes experienced as a deep depression right in the heart.
Low Thyroid Function. About 85% have this symptom, but only about 10% of the time does it show up on a typical thyroid test. If you get tested, have both a T3 and T4 done. About 10% have excessive hair loss. For most everyone, a poorly performing thyroid will show up as subnormal temperatures.
Gastrointestinal Problems: About 75% have this symptom. Can be anything from gas, bloating, cramps, diarrhea or constipation to hiatal hernia, irritable bowel syndrome or Crohn’s Disease. Sometimes taking a simple homeopathic remedy like arsenicum album, 6x or 6c and make a difference with this.
Swollen Glands, Chemical Sensitivity, Headaches: Allergies often develop, usually after 3 to 5 years. Eyes can be light sensitive for 6 months or longer. Dry eyes can develop. About 20% experience a very uncomfortable disequilibrium of vertigo, almost an out of body feeling that can be most disconcerting.
Pain and Fibromyalgia: Often diagnosed as a separate illness, fibromyalgia is basically a symptom that can occur with any autoimmune disease. If you have it, you’ve got pain. Often in the neck and in shoulder muscles extending down the back. Can be in the joints and muscles also.
Low Blood Sugar.
Candida Yeast Infections: These are very common. Check your tongue. If it has a white coating, you have it. Or take the spit test you will read about later. Women may get vaginal yeast infections caused by candida overgrowth. A candida infection on its own can cause a number of autoimmune type symptoms. Sinus infections often are caused by candida.
Tingling hands. Ringing ears. Cold toes. Cold fingers. Metallic taste in mouth. Caused by poor circulation and who knows what.
Overdoing: You overexercise or overwork when your are feeling good, and then feel worse for days afterward. This can cause serious problems. In healthy people the body shuts down when the anaerobic threshold is reached as a lot of pain is experienced. This warning does not occur if you have an autoimmune disease. Instead, the body continues to exercise and experiences no pain as the lactic acid builds up, and the body ends up recirculating carbon dioxide. This is not a healthy thing to have happen to you. It is important not to push too hard when you start recovering, or this will set you back and wipe you out.
Fluttering Heart. Panic Attacks. Rapid Heartbeat. Mitral Valve Prolapse. Usually blood pressure is low, though it can get high later on. The heart underpumps blood because it is getting incorrect messages from the autonomous nervous system. The body’s feedback loop picks this up and over-reacts. And you get these symptoms.
If you have autoimmune illness, it is not likely you have all these symptoms. However, you will have many of them to one degree or another.
This information is for educational purposes only. I am not a doctor. This is not medical advice on how to treat autoimmune conditions, but information to help you understand them.
( sorry that was long) I don't know if this helps. I don't know how old the info is . I looked it up.
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Types of Possibly Autoimmune Diseases: Wegener's granulomatosis, Discoid lupus erythematosus, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lyme disease, Peyronie's disease, Huntington's Disease, Autism, Sydenham chorea, Rasmussen's Encephalitis, Stiff-Person Syndrome, Ulcerative colitis, Interstitial cystitis, Primary sclerosing cholangitis, Bell's Palsy .......again, I'm not a doctor.I just looked up the info, and I have no idea how old the info is.
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Firstly, the question was is there such a thing as HIV-Negative AIDS. That is not the same thing as asking are there auto-immune diseases that are not caused by HIV, which is the question you appear to be attempting answer. The answer to the question is NO. AIDS is caused by the HIV virus.
Secondly, the information you cut and paste for Bura is from some bullshit website promoting 'natural' remedies for all sorts of diseases. Personally, I think it is not enough to cut and paste stuff and then add a disclaimer to the end saying you are not a doctor and that this is just for info. You need to excercise some discretion and intelligence when responding to highly emotionally distressed people who read this board and who are looking for verifiable scientifcally-based information not some jibberish about how the bongo-bongo plant or whatever can make you feel better and where to buy them at $50 a pop.
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My god bura reading that while I am awaiting my results of my hiv testing literally drove me to want to put a spike in my head and end it all. I read on a lot of pages that even if you get infected with HIV that you will maybe have some minor symptoms and then a positive result followed by a long time of no symptoms at all and I do plan to be immediately on the best meds if I do come back positive so please tell me the rest of my life won't be in hospitals or so sick I can't get out of bed. I already now feel like crap with the chills and groin pain.
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Exactly. Yet they themselves are quick to jump all over those who do provide scientifically based information.
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sorry to jump in here, but, aids = auto immune dysfuntion syndrome . auto immune dysfunction can be caused by lots of things as in firefly post not just hiv, the thing that we need to impress upon people is that you get your 3 month neg test and you are still sick well maybe its something else not hiv and not in your head. i will be the first to admit that most people here worry and stress themselves out and produce lots of their symptoms but some have real physical problems that they need to investigate but need to go beyond hiv, i think worrying too much about bura mental fragileness is a little too co dependent as he can look up the same stuff on the web, we all can but when we post and we discuss not attack than we can sort all the junk out there, i think we all need to remember to have an open mind and not attack right away. love and peace
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AIDS is an acronym for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome as well as an acronym Auto Immune Definciey Syyndrome. They are two seperate conditions. The former is caused by HIV, while the latter is not, but can have symptoms that resemble HIV. The latter will not lead to Acquired Immune Deficiency (which is group of diseases).
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MY GOD SHADES. I THOUGHT YOU ARE HAVE A FAIR KNOWLEDGE ON HIV. DONT GET ME WRONG. I M NOT CRITICIZING YOU. BUT YOU ARE CONSIERED AS A SOURCE OF INFO IN THISA SITE. MANY PPL COUNT ON UR ADVICE.
AIDS = Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome
NOT, aids = auto immune dysfuntion syndrome, AS BEEN CLAIMED BY U IN THE PREVIOUS POST.
Auto immune diseases are not necessarily acquired.
These are rudimentary knowledge on hiv.
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Hello bro,
i am also waiting for my PA test result. My doc promise me one day, and then delaying it when it comes. I, myself am going crazy.
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Just to confirm, Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome is more dangerous than auto immune deficiency syndrome rite?? so like for me, i pass the 13 weeks elisa conclusive test, and having certain symptoms, could it be that i am having auto immune deficiency syndrome?can it be healed?this auto immune def syn...does this affect the blood?is it some sort of a virus as i am really new to this?
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Bura,
Nobody can diagnose you over the net. If you have symptoms we can do nothing other than advise you to see a doctor. All we can say is that, given your testing history, there is no way that the symptoms you have can be HIV-related.
On the more general point, yes there are lots of medical conditions that effect the auto-immune system. The distinction with AIDS is that is ACQUIRED (i.e. it is caused by the HIV virus, which is acquired), as opposed to being a the result of a genetic predisposition etc.
You might also like to note that the negative effects of stress and anxiety on the immune system are well-known and documented. It is my personal opinion that this is a very likely cause for most, if not all, of your symptoms.
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sorry you are right , my mistake acquired not auto dont know where my head was
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for you to have auto immune you would of had it since childhood not all of a sudden, sorry i got the words mixed up
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no probs shades. Its never late to learn something...
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