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Time will tell if the windows period is questioned
#171593 - 01/25/06 09:55 PM
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Hello guys,
First and formost, i would like compliment Daisey as she is a very strong person. Honestly, if i do have HIV, i probably would just write one or two more posts and then shut the computer for a while. Nobody wants this including myself, and i do have my compassion towards you.
The reason i am posting this is because i saw you people debating on the windows period subject. As you all know, my exposure was protected sex and unprotected oral in June/July 2005. My last ELISA test was the 20th of January 2006 which was non-reactive and My last rapid test was on the 25th January which again was non-reactive, As i took my rapid test, i saw a doctor who specializes in hiv, i did ask her based on her experience, what was the windows period like? She said 6 MONTHS! This information is not to scare people but to share my experiences with yo all as well. I told her about my symptoms, lympth nodes swelling undeneath both armpits, rashes,scallop toungue,cough at night,flam,slight swelling at the back of my neck and she found 2 more swelling lympth nodes somewhere near my throat. All of you in the forum says that i am fine!!
I told the doctor that i could feel something in my blood and she told me to do a specific test. In short, that test is called PA (can't remember what is the full name of it) whereby she says that if this test comes out positive, then i will be joining the " I just tested Positive". If this test comes out negative, then i would have to do another elisa test in the next 4 to 6 months and if i managed to clear it then, i am free of this virus.
So, the debate here is the 13 weeks conclusive test? Some people will be positive within 3 months some won't! why? according to the doctor, sometimes our immune system is strong thus suppressing the virus causing it to be undetected as this virus is very intelligent. It goes into hiding.
As i am writing this, i am about to cry, i am crying for my fiance which i have hight probably in contaminating her and i cry for my family for dissapointing them, I am very sad. I don't even have kids. sigh....At heart i am a good person and i do hope that god will give me this miracle for me and my fiance,I ask all of you from the bottom of my heart to pray for me.
My results for stds and the PA will be out on approximately 6-8 February, I will post when the ime is right. This is knowledge for all as we don't want to spread the virus to our loved ones or others as we may have this even if we pass the 13 weeks conclusive test. All the best my friends, your advice and dedication to this forum has been something for people like me and i tell u, regardless of whether i am HIV positive or not i will participate here actively!
Thank you!
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I guess it never occured to you that this Dr. has zero knowledge about hiv testing. she probaly is a foot Dr. You are neg for hiv so unless you love to punish yourself get over it.
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Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!
You had an exposure in June/July (I forget what kind of exposure, but lets not get into that), and now you have tested negative at the end of January. That IS six months.
So don't tell me that your Dr says that a six month test is definitive and then recommends testing several months after you have already got a six month negative! That does not make any sense at all.
"...according to the doctor, sometimes our immune system is strong thus suppressing the virus causing it to be undetected as this virus is very intelligent. It goes into hiding."
This is also complete bullshit. If you do indeed have a strong immune system which causes the virus to be undetected, that is because you have produced antibodies which fight the virus....and if you had antibodies, then you would test positive. And any Dr who says to a patient that a virus is "intelligent" is a cretin.
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mr anonymous,
why are you getting so uptight? this is what my doctor say. Do u think that i really want you to get HIV? do you think i really wanna torture myself? Heaven's sake no. This is the information i've got and by you telling me that the doctor is wrong.....yeah will probably make me feel better. If i really don't have this HIV, why is there the swelling of lympth nodes whereby i only have a mild cough and sore throat. From previous experiences, this is abnormal to me. I really wish what you say is tru man!! so as i said.....let time tell.....if i can wait for 2 weeks....y not all of us wait to see what is the fact?
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Bura.. I would not question your wants and desires to be without this condition. But I question your doctor. From one HIV positive person to one that is searching for answers. Have you used ASK THE EXPERTS? I urge to to get an expert ID Specialists opion on this matter. There are many doctors that do not know the ins and outs of HIV and infection. Enough said... Good Luck..
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"why is there the swelling of lympth nodes" That may be due to lymph infection, not HIV. Keep us posted.
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"why is there the swelling of lympth nodes" That may be due to lymph infection, not HIV. Keep us posted.
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Eric the Ratboy,
I have trying to get "ASK THE EXPERTS" for answers but i don't think they have time for me. I wrote about 5 times i think....but to know avail. However the doctor from www.aegis.com did email me telling me that she feels that i am okay as she thinks that 3 months testing is conclusive as she is that group of doctor. Thank eric...at least from your reply i feel there is some compassion, thank you again!
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Bura, I will tell you what I know... I have been told that 3 months is the norm. Now if you beleive me great. If you dont, I dont know what to say really... I am sorry the experts are not replying... dang it...
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eric,
just checking, when i am in the aircond room, the center of palms tend to be in pain.it is like the ligaments is hardened and causing it to be in pain. It is like having arthiritis.the whole palm is like numb. do u all have this?
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I don't know what your risk or exposure was, but you tested negative 6 months after your last possible exposure then you are negative. Hopefully she's done other blood work on you to check for other possible causes besides HIV If not, you should insisit she do so, or go to another doctor for a second opinion.
Find an infectious disease specialist , or if you can't do that, visit your local std clinic, where the nurses and doctors deal with these kind of questions all the time.
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Bura,
I am getting uptight for two reasons:
1. I think you are putting yourself through a lot of unecessary torture and, also, you are posting a lot of contradictory stuff in your own thread. For example:
a. You say you have seen a Dr. who says you need to test at six months. But you already have, and it was negative! So why are you testing again.
b. Now you say you have had a PA test and that the result will come in 2 weeks and that will tell us 'what is the fact'. But in your initial post in this thread you said "If this test comes out negative, then i would have to do another elisa test in the next 4 to 6 months and if i managed to clear it then, i am free of this virus." That seems to say to me that even if this test is negative, you are going to carry on doubting that and test in another 4 - 6 months time. Or am I reading that wrong?
Everything I have read on this suggests 3 months is conclusive and only in the rarest of very special cases is a test at 6 months called for. You have had that test and it was negative. End of story.
2. The second reason is that you are starting to post incorrect information in other people's threads (like the person who you recommended to get a Western Blot test after a 6 month negative antibody test - which was plain wrong advice). I can accept your own paranoia in your own thread, but not that.
Sorry if I cannot be as compassionate as some....but 'tough love' sometimes works!
All the best.
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