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This is the original person who first replied to this thread
This first part goes to the person that replied to my first response, My exact statement was this

"herpes out breaks during hiv infection dont go away quickly and then come back they ->USUALLY<- are present for atleast 6 weeks or more before the zoster go's away"

First notice the word i used " USUALLY" meaning most of the time not allways....If i said Herpes outbreaks are always longer then 6 weeks with Hiv then u would be correct to correct me

Second using medication doesn't apply to my response, You would be using an outside substance to help treat and resolve the herpes outbreak, What i was talking about was the body's natural response to the outbreak, Not everybody pops a Valtrex to treat them,Having Hiv and especially with a weaker immune system that is USUALLY reported with OHL(Which i dont believe he has) would make the reaction to the outbreak longer in duration since the body would be at a weak stage considering when OHL is BELIEVED to be associated with having a cell count under <300 and close if not in the Aids defined stage
I added this link for a lil more information
http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Infections/Archive/Oral/Q71652.html

This is for the original poster

You do not have Hiv or Ohl
OHL is related to the EBV Virus which is a member of the herpes virus but have nothing to do with each other u can have OHL and not have Hsv-1 or Hsv-2
Its not related like chicken pox and shingles where u can't have shingles when u never had the chicken pox
You most likely had ChickenPox yourself since more then 90 percent of people have had(even though some may not remember or they may have been very mild especially when real young) You would have been more likely to have shingles then Ohl if your cell count was that low as u've said
The fact is its not Ohl i bet you it a hyper-keratinized tissue due to trauma to the area meaning the lession is probably from irritation from the rear teeth most likely the moller(Where i bet the lession is) and i bet its also very close to the lingual tonsils on the side of your tongue(not the two in your throat) because this area of the tongue has a more geographical area and ridges
Ohl usually goes away when cell count goes up, it does come and go,It would remain there untill treated with medication or the rise of cell count,which wouldn't make sense in your case because your not on medication for it and your cells wouldn't be jumping up and down like that

You want to know why you didn't Have Fever,Rash(which are the 2 most common symptoms of hiv infection If symptoms are present at all) and diarrhea(which you would have most likely experience at some point during all this especially cause u have a "Low Cd4 count" and other symptoms u haven't had is because you do not have Hiv
A few herpes outbreaks(which are known to be sometimes triggered by stress for example) and Ohl(especially that burn lol which is never known to be associated with pain at all and doesn't come and go when it feels like it but tends to grow and be more define) do not indicate Hiv and that your immune system is weak

Now you Don't want to test.....The laws behind u and Thats up to u man as long as you dont put any people at risk untill you know forsure im coo with that, But just because YOU(as in the poster)DONT HAVE SYMPTOMS OF HIV it doesn't matter because not everyone has symptoms and u need to test for it if u have put yourself at risk(which u haven't shared with us by the way)
But I must also say if you dont get tested your a jack ass and i wish i knew u to smack some sense into u but i dont and i cant so i can only tell you that u should really think about it hard because
1) Do u really wont to go ahead and continue weeks,months, or years worrying about something that u most likely do not have and worry if your going to de from it? waste all that time of stress depression anxiety and worry over something that was never there?The time untill u test and find out your negative will be a waste of time in your life, Your not going to be motivated to do anything your going to worry about what if and your not going to do anything with your life till then because of the fear of a uncertain future
your going to be distant from family and friends and spend most of your time alone ,on the internet looking up ohl and other symptoms and thinking about hiv...do you really want all of this when it only take 5 minutes to really find out?
2) If u were infected do u want to wait untill the virus destroys your immune system to a point were its very damaged and meds can help you only so much ?

The truth is even if you were positive with todays meds(even though strong to some but not to others) you can live a long life and probably die of old age
People with out meds can live 10 years maybe a lil more but the truth is there people out there that have been infected since the mid 80's walking around with cell count well in the normal to high range that a non infected person would have
wouldn't u rather be one of these people if u were infected?
catching it and monitoring it early can help save your immune system so much

Its your choice to test man but honestly just do it....I was scared to i swear to god i told my self f*ck that im not going i rather not know, i said this because i was scared, But after i kept thinking about it i was more scared not knowing then knowing
When i tested for the first time i was so sure they were going to say positive, i would of bet anything i was convinced because i had the symptoms u had plus alot more im not bullshitting you one bit
but u know what they were negative and each time i kept testing again they were negative when i was sure that it would be positive so i got even more fustrated because i knew i was positive and went and took a expensive pcr dna that test's directly for the virus embedded in blood cell and would be sure they would find it because i was sure i was positive,then it came back negative then i was still worried maybe it was a lab error so i tested again 15 days later(2 1/2 months from exposure) and again negative, now its 4 months and i still test negative
What Im trying to tell u is everyone thinks there positive for sure because of symptoms and are convinced because they think it all makes sense when it don't!

I really hope you grow some balls, I know it scary but its the best thing u can do for yourself no matter if it's negative or positive either way its the best and only thing to do...i hope u gather the strength to do it
Good Luck

P.s I am now very interested in knowing what type of exposure it was, If you would let us know -Thanks

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