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Symptoms and neg early test
      #160780 - 09/28/05 09:10 PM

Can anyone give me an opinion on this. I recieved unprotected oral sex from a escort. then protected insertive sex. 3 weeks later and I have intense pins and needles in both legs also have had a sore throat and mouth ulcer.
I had proviral DNA scan and P24 antigen test at 12 days both came back negative, but the symptoms are freaking me out a bit. What do people think of these tests at this time scale I can't find any consistant info on them

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Re: Symptoms and neg early test new
      #160781 - 09/28/05 09:53 PM

Low Risk
symptoms dont sound like hiv
12 days is to early ..... 4 weeks is neeeded to get the most accurate results and needs to be followed up with a antibody's test after the window period

Its a good sign never the less

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Re: Symptoms and neg early test new
      #160798 - 09/29/05 07:05 AM

How accurate are proviral DNA scan results at 4 weeks?
Also how reliable is antibody test at 4 weeks?
Sore throat really hurts this morning and has white infected areas on it, hope it is just coincidental.

Thanks in advance for any replies

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Re: Symptoms and neg early test new
      #160804 - 09/29/05 12:08 PM

Pcr Dna's are very sensitive,
Some may say 95% and some will say 99% but 98% is usually said
usually the only way these test produce false negative is:
1) tooken to early
2) Lab error
3) Depending on the version on the Pcr Being infected with a Non-B Subtype may produce a false negative
mainly being the subtypes A,C,E and F that the pcr might miss but most of the time picks up,version 1.5 will pick these subtypes up
98% percent of the hiv infections in the united states are Subtype B and these Non-B Subtypes are more present in coastal city's like Ny and La then in the midwest
Do you know which Lab performed your test?
Which testing service did u use or was it from a doctors office?
Labcorp use's the Roche Pcr by Dna version 1.5
Im am not sure what Quest or other Labs use

The average time to seroconvert is 25 days so a test at one month would be atleast 50% accurate and if antigen is also used it would be more accurate
and A test at 8 weeks would be about 80% or more just to let u know

Remember Pcr's sometimes give false positive but with pcr rna's much more the Dna's that u've took but still possible
because there so sensitive,So unless your able to handle the
chance of being told positive when your not i wouldn't take
the test and wait 6 week from the time of exposure and take a antibody and antigen test but its up to you

Good luck

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Re: Symptoms and neg early test new
      #160811 - 09/29/05 02:16 PM

Your symptoms are consistent with GUILT and STRESS.

People do not become infected by having another person perform oral sex on them...look at the data, the archives, etc.

You used a condom for everything did the right thing.

I don't know if you are married...maybe you are and maybe that's why you are freaking out.

Take it from someone who has been there and has had mouth sores, headaches, back aches, stomach aches, dry mouth, etc., etc., etc. This is NOT HIV or ARS related to HIV. It is stress accompanied, maybe, by guilt.

You didn't put yourself at risk here, man, you just didn't.

Move on with your life and stop asking about testing. You will not receive an answer that is going to satisfy you. You are not infected by HIV. Remember, also, escorts make their living fucking people...they don't have death wishes...they want to live as much as you want to live. They protect themselves. I'd bet that if you wanted to have sex without a condom that she would have turned you down.

Please...spare yourself alot of grief and anxiety. You didn't put yourself at risk. You used a condom and got a blow job...not high risk activities

Peace be with you.

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Re: Symptoms and neg early test new
      #164748 - 11/20/05 03:20 PM


regards from india

From what you report, you'r risk was very low and testing is unwarrented, however you may want to test at 12 weeks to put the fears and anxiety pertaining this encounter to rest.

Symptoms mean nothing and should not be used as a tool to diagnose HIV.

Your proviral DNA scan and P24 antigen test at 12 days, is quite early in terms of HIV test reliability.If you want to test you may test at 6 weeks, since MOST who have been infected recently would produce antibodies by then.


stay well

take care

god bless you

love ravi

Take Care

God Bless you

Stay Well

Love Ravi

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