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TheTyger
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ARS Rash
#12937 - 11/27/00 10:41 PM
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Another question. Sorry for the bother. I have heard that the ARS related rash more often than not does not itch. Has anyone, especially after a low risk exposure, had a dry itchy sensation on their back and chest, and perhaps a little redness, but not too deep of a redness? Did you have anything resembling a sunburn? Thank You.
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Tyger,
Once again....calm down friend. I've read your post in which you describe your exposure. I believe that you're fine.
Let me say that where I'm from during the winter the humidity is nonexistent and one's skin becomes dry, itchy and irritated. In addition, ARS is a number of symptoms that all come and leave at once. As has been stated many times on this board - do not diagnose via symptoms. The symptoms with acute HIV infection are the same ones found with numerous other conditions.
Go over the history of posts on this board. Namely the ones where people have had every symptom of HIV disease yet have turned up negative - with more "risky" exposures than the one you describe.
You sound like you're letting your anxiety get the best of you. I know its hard but hang in there. We're all here for each other.
This post should answer both your questions about negative status and symptoms as well as the ARS rash.
Hang in there. If your anxiety becomes too great...stop reading about HIV and its symptoms. Leave your internet connection for a while. Get tested at 120 days. See a counselor. Pray.
Take care and God Bless.
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Why do you constantly keep telling people to test at 120 days? Do some more reaearch before you continue to comment.
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Testing at 120 days is pretty standard. Others on this board have reiterated this as well. Ryan Kull at the body has confirmed this.
Some have said that 6 month testing should be done if the test was a 1st generation ELISA. Don't know about that. Think the difference is the sensitivity of the test.
You can get the testing done earlier but only if you do the PCR which is very expensive.
Everything I have read has pointed to the 120 testing window. It has been backed up by others on this board as well as those at the BODY.
Jackie, PVS, AnonJS, Altazar, Captain Japan, Gary NPA, am I missing something here?
Anon - what is the basis for you saying that I need to do more research?
Let me know.
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Excerpt taken from one of Ryan Kull's board post responses:
"Different sources will probably vary to certain degrees on the length of the window period. I agree with the New York Department of Health and GMHC. I also agree with studies that suggest that the test has 95-99.9% in three months"
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120 DAYS IS LIKE 4 MONTHS. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OR READ ANYONE THAT SAYS 4 MONTHS IS CONCLUSIVE. EVERTHING I HAVE READ SAYS 6 MONTHS. SORRY BUT NOT 3 MONTHS NOT 28 DAYS, NOT 40050 MINUTES. THAT MEANS 26 WEEKS. SOME OF YOU SAY 24 WEEKS, WHATEVER.I REALIZE THAT WAITING IS A HASSLE BUT THERE ARE REASONS FOR 6 MONTHS. THE NEWER ELISA'S ARE A BETTER TEST, SO MORE PEOPLE WILL SHOW POSTIVE BY 3 MONTHS, BUT THE 6 MONTH TEST TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THAT NOT ALL PEOPLE WILL CONVERT BY 3 MONTHS. IT ALSO TAKES AWAY THE FEW PEOPLE WHO'S TESTS ARE MIS-HANDLED AT 3 MONTHS.
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AnomJS
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Ok, I didn't want to get in to this but I will. 120 days, never heard of it. 2. CDC suggests testing at 6 months for the small percentage of people who will turn Pos after 3. 3 month testing is conclusive by just about everyone besides the CDC using the 3rd generation Elisa. If you use the first generation, you should test at 6 month. CDC IS CONSERVATIVE. Call the GMHC 1-800-aids-nyc. Once again, tell us why places such as Oh Canada, Europe, NYC, etc. say 3 months is CONCLUSIVE. They wouldn't lie. They know more than we do. 6 months if you must for your own peace of mind but, it's gonna be the same result as your 3. This battle keeps resurfacing, why I don't know. God Bless.
JS<><
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Acutally Ryan Kull hedges by saying "3 to 6 months according to different sources" in one of his answers from yesterday.
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Hello. Aside from the CDC there are other organizations you can speak with regarding the window period for producing detectable antibodies: The San Francisco Aids Foundation 800-367-AIDS and the GMHC (oldest non profit aids org. in the country) 800-243-7692. The SFAF will tell you that 95% or higher will have seroconverted at 3 months and the GMHC will tell you that testing 3 months and beyond is conclusive. You need to take into consideration that some folks here are testing multiple times within the standard window period ie, 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks etc. When you look at the total number of negative results within that time frame, you can build up a confidence interval. The likelihood of someone seroconverting after 3 months is extremely small. In fact, I was told by the GMHC that if you don't convert by 3 months, then you're negative -- end of story. But of course, I did have to refer my question to the SFAF and they told me that a test at 4 months did NOT have to be followed up. In my experience I wanted to speak to counsellors and trained volunteers not some govermnment employee reading off some manual. I have shed tears while on the phone with guys from the 2 agencies I mentioned and they took whatever time was needed to hear me out and allay my concerns. Really a big difference if you are suffering anxiety over a possible exposure.
There is no huge conspiracy to hide the truth from the public. I also am not debating with you on the accuracy of tests at 3,4,5,6 months. If people are comfortable with a 12 week test - so be it. If people would rather wait out to 24-26 weeks - so be it. Actually, if you read further even the experts on TheBody are giving diff. answers with regard to if its 24 or 26 weeks or even 21. They like to use the phrase "splitting hairs". Dr. Gallant has said "there is nothing magical about the 6 month window". Bottom line really from my standpoint - the longer you wait to get tested, the more confident you can feel about the result. == PVS
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ok BUT
#12963 - 11/28/00 02:33 PM
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Dr. Gallant quotes from Dr. Bartlett all the time, in regards to window periods. I wouldn't use Joel Gallant as a refernce for your argument.
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PVS
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Don't get hung up on semantics. Again, you will need to do a lot more crucial research and discover that even the experts supply contradicting information. Bottom line, get tested whenever you feel that you can put your fears to rest. Btw, if you feel like being argumentative, why don't you speak to a Doctor or the Aids org folks instead of spouting off on this board. Cheers! == PVS
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STOP IT MAN!!!! Why must you continue? Now I'm pissed. Sorry all I tried to stay calm. You've pissed me off now.
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