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      #113206 - 10/28/04 01:16 PM

I have a question to pose to you. I am on an HIV Negative Website for people who have had ongoing symptoms and wanted to know if something else such as herpes could be at work in their bodies (dont worried worried wells over the past three years all the group has come to find is we are negative and the test works at three months)
BUT my question to the regulars here is have you all come into contact with this Lemon Foundation / Kayla person before. I spoke to one person who has and wanted to know what your experience with her has been. The reason I ask is she came on to the site getting people all worried by claiming HIV from the Bush and friends that have OIS despite negative testing and contact with the president and vice president and Senator Kerry. I know she has posted here before and been met with some pretty stiff words but curious what you all take on her is....

here is one reply below from her and my response with GMAN copied

From: "wrenwrnety" <wrenwrnety@y...>
Date: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:45 pm
Subject: Lemon post On Body


I was curious to find out how many people this Kayla/lemon Fondation
person was contacting so I went on the chat room in THE BODY and not
to my surprise I found her all over the place. She was trying hard
to get these worried wells to second guess their dagnoses and write
congress if they had the flu after sex and had negative tests after
90days. She uses the name Kayla or Lemon Foundation and here is just
one of the replies she got from someone who has helped people for
the last 15 years get over their fears of HIV or an unknown STD. He
is HIV positive and is one of the ones who helped me when I thought
my symptoms were related to sex....
I hope you all can see through this person and her ADDICTION to this
cause.... I can suplly her initial post if need be
Remember no replying LemonHead

I am sorry to inform you, there are no new strains that cannot be
picked up by an FDA approved antibodies test. Even if it were a new
strain, your body would produce the antibodies that will be picked
up by a test. Please stop-posting things that you actually have no
clue about, the only reason this type of thing is done is to scare
people who actually have no clue. The last time someone started
this, they went over a year going to the top infectious disease
doctors in the nation insisting they had a strain that had not been
found yet only to find out they were wrong. It cost them thousands
of dollars in unnecessary testing and waist of time just because
they were sure they had there own strain. They finally found they
were wrong when they were sued for slander by the treating
physicians they were publicly calling liars. Unless you are a
medical professional I would leave the diagnosis up to them, or
maybe you have become an expert from reading on the net when they
had to spend many years in school to learn there skill. There is
much research going on and if there were an odd strain, it would
have been found by the scientists at the labs around the world.
Get a life and stop spreading this denialist stuff on this board
please; it makes you sound even more uneducated than you actually

The G-Man
HIV+ since 1989

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      #113211 - 10/28/04 04:13 PM

Thank you for pulling this back out of the archives. I remember many such cases over the years all to find out they had now HIV virus in there system.
I am still monitoring the boards and keeping abreast of the goings on here as well as the other sights I volunteer on just like this one. The reason I have not been posting is because I have been down with compression fractures in my spine and the medication I am on has me overly grumpy and my responses might come over wrong or too abrupt. The people answering the posts at this time are doing well and there answers have been spot on in most cases. It is wonderful to see people who are actually educating themselves about this disease.
I will be watching and hope you all are safe and well.

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      #113217 - 10/28/04 09:48 PM

some people are just weak if you have taken a HIV Antibody test 12 weeks after a posibble exposure and it is negative then you are HIV Negative period. If you are having "symptoms" youre just a weak person and sick from something else.
there is no grand conspiracy about a virus and antibodies but there are weak people who are going to die young probably YOU

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      #113258 - 10/29/04 10:40 PM

Here's the response she received from Dr Brian Conway on Oct 8, 2004:

"You certainly raise a number of important issues and I will add my voice to the many who have already congratulated you for your courage and determination.

In science and medicine, we are always on the lookout for new disease entities. The more we understand them, the more likely we are to figure out a way to treat them. I hope this will be the case for you, sooner rather than later.

There are many illnesses that, on the surface, look like HIV. It is unclear what causes them and if they are transmissable. I would NOT rely on the results of a Canadian home HIV test kit to definitively identify HIV infection. It was pulled from the market for generating false positive results. I would want to confirm that HIV (or antibodies to it) are present by some other means before I drew a conclusion about your case.

As for the blood donation issue, I would not worry. Anyone with an undiagnosed chronic illness such as yours would be automatically excluded from donating (at least in Canada). This is to eliminate the risk of unknowingly transmitting a pathogen, which is exactly your concern.

I will end by wishing you health (and a specific diagnosis) as soon as possible. "

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