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Viral Load: A Deception
      #8998 - 08/29/00 07:50 PM

Viral load testing is a deceptive practice, as the results are skewed in such a way as to reflect a number of viral units that is far greater than the number of CD4 cell units.

For example: let's assume your viral load results are 100,000 and your CD4 cells are at 350. Those numbers sound terrifying, because on first examination it would appear that the number of viral units far outweigh your CD4 cells.

However the volume of plasma used to perform these two tests is quite different. The volume of plasma it took to produce the viral load count is one thousand times greater than the volume of plasma it took to produce the CD4 cell count.

If you were to equalize the volumes from which the measurements are taken, you would have either:

1) A viral load of 100,000 with a CD4 cell count of 350,000;

2) a viral load of 100 with a CD4 cell count of 350.

Most people are going to have many more CD4 cells than viral copies, even when viral load is "high".

Now, when you take into consideration that over 98% of the virus represented by the viral load measurement are noninfectious, another set of number emerges:

1) A viral load of 200 with a CD4 cell count of 350,000;

2) a viral load of 2 with a CD4 cell count of 350.

These numbers present a great difficulty for those promote the HIV/AIDS theory. For the first time in the history of infectious disease it is being claimed that immune systems are being destroyed by noninfectious virus.

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Re: Viral Load: A Deception new
      #9015 - 08/30/00 10:00 AM

HIV denialist are self-limiting as this E-mail and follow up show:

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August 25, 2000 at 13:24:28

Subject: No interest in toxic drugs
Date: 24 Aug 1995 07:16:53 (12 lines of text)
From: pppwac@tiac.net (Sean Current)

Please stop mailing me your posts from your discussion group. I am an HIV heretic and have no interest in hearing about more toxic drugs to kill HIV positive people.

Thanks

Sean Current

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The turning point came when Current had trouble breathing and was diagnosed as having K.S. in his lungs. He turned to other dissidents for advice and, receiving nothing he considered an adequate answer, sought conventional treatment. In October he began highly active anti-retroviral therapy (HAART) -- taking a combination of drugs to attack his HIV.

"After two weeks of HAART and the chemo, my lesions had all flattened out and I could breathe again," Current says. "I feel much, much better. Within the first month my energy level increased."

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      #9020 - 08/30/00 03:36 PM

According to the AIDS establishment, Kaposi's Sarcoma is no longer considered an AIDS indicator disease. It is now officially caused by another dubious virus dubbed "Human Herpes Virus 8".

Kaposi's sarcoma, by the way, never occurs in the lungs EXCEPT in a subset of gay men who abuse nitrite inhalants (a known carcinogen). Certainly it would appear as though there is some correlation between the treatment and the remission of the KS, but based on current the current orthodox definition of AIDS it could not be due to inhibition of what is called "HIV", because according to that definition KS is not caused by "HIV".



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      #9030 - 08/30/00 08:41 PM

I'm sure Sean Current used to feel the same way as you.



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      #9045 - 08/31/00 11:58 AM

"Feeling" has nothing to do with it. I am merely reiterating the conventional thinking within the AIDS orthodoxy as to what causes KS.

Note that Sean was on HAART AND chemotherapy for the KS. If Sean was on HAART alone one could make the claim that HAART was responsible for his remission. But that is not the case.

If we follow the orthodox definition of what causes KS, we can only assume that it was the chemo, not HAART, that caused his remission.



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Re: Viral Load: A Deception new
      #9050 - 08/31/00 02:09 PM

Why you should not listen to HEAL or ACTUP/SF
http://www.actupny.org/alert/denialists.html



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      #9052 - 08/31/00 03:11 PM

Why you SHOULD pay attention to HEAL / ACTU-UP San Francisco:
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/data/drinhibit.htm



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      #9199 - 09/04/00 10:29 PM

How can you be so sure, since he was admittedly ON BOTH my friend?
I t seems to me that the real problem here is not your current beliefs, but the fact that you are completely opposed to even considering the possibility that you may be wrong! And that my friend is unscientific here or anywhere. If you are so sure about your theories, why do people keep dying because of complications of HIV???
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      #9212 - 09/05/00 05:32 PM

"How can you be so sure, since he was admittedly ON BOTH my friend?"
By using logic.

"It seems to me that the real problem here is not your current beliefs, but the fact that you are completely opposed to even considering the possibility that you may be wrong!"
I do not utilize "belief", but rather logic. My problem, honestly, is that I expect those who believe the HIV/AIDS dogma to be capable of using logic when they are not.

"And that my friend is unscientific here or anywhere."
Once again I reiterate that I am only using logic to deduce the answers to problems, as would any other scientist.

"If you are so sure about your theories, why do people keep dying because of complications of HIV???"
The burden of proof is not upon those who critique the HIV/AIDS hypothesis, but rather on those who originally proposed it. A hypothesis is measured by its ability to make accurate predications, and by that measure the hypothesis has failed miserably.

Are people dying? Yes, but not of HIV. But that's all I'm going to grant you at this time. It has become apparent to me that this is a monumental waste of time. Ignorance, after all, IS bliss... and I apologize for attempting to take that away from you.



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      #9402 - 09/09/00 02:10 AM

Sure!



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