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hiv & working out/bodybuilding
#225222 - 02/26/07 11:43 AM
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hey everyone! i have always been a "working out," active kind of guy, and always been interested in getting bigger/more muscular, etc. i shy away from the term "bodybuilding" as for me that conjures notions of drug-enhanced muscularity that is neither smart nor healthy. since testing positive, i have had an obvious major shift in priorities. working out/getting bigger and a general healthier lifestyle has become so much more important, not only as an ego boost (personal, not public) and healthy lifestyle activity but also as something that just makes me feel good! i'm wondering if there are any other + guys out there who have experienced the same shift in priority and mentality? i'd like to use this thread as a place to exchange ideas, talk about supplements, etc., and how it all relates mentally and physically to being hiv+. right now i'm on atripla (taken once a day) and bactrin (taken m, w, f) to prevent pneumonia. my numbers are great, and i'm very healthy. my doctor has done somersaults over my progress! he's an amazing man with endless amounts of patience, knowledge and caring, and i've talked with him specifically about taking supplements. he says there isn't any supplementation that can hurt me, taken correctly.
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with that said, i'm doing:
• a daily multi-vitamin
• protein shake each morning and evening, usually combined with orange juice or milk, some sort of fruit, and a teaspoon of creatine
• 5 grams of l-glutamine daily in the form of 10 chewable tablets
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my workout routine is pretty simple:
• a body part a day, 4-5 days a week
• great attention to proper physical and mental rest
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i'd love to hear from some of you out there on the same path!
~ wcpd (windycitypozdude)
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i have hiv, hiv does NOT have me!
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Hi WindyCity,
It is good to see someone else who has the same type of goals as I do. I am 37 and also HIV+. I was diagnosed 1.5 years ago. The first few months I was depressed, and then I decided I was not going to let HIV control my life. Fortunately, I don't need meds at this time and trying to stay healthy the natural way - eating right, resting, and working out. I could really use some support with these goals. I have not mentioned to my family and friends that I am HIV+ because there is nothing they can do to help me at this point and all it will do is cause them to worry and and will also cause gossip. I love my friends and family but I know them too well when it comes to gossip. I have been feeling a little fatiqued lately so I stopped working out for a bit. I recieved my last results and my CD4 counts were 572 with a viral load over 100K. This may be why I am feeling a little fatiqued. I would like to starting working out 4 times a week again and want to start start suppliments. I am not trying to get big or anything but trying to tone up and build some body muscle again. Would like to hear more about your goals, suppliments, etc.
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I was told to aggressively pursue exercise. i used to lift/run all the time. I am starting slow i walked for 45 min today and did 30 min of anerobic exercise like crunches and low back exercises. i figuire i will follow that routine a week before hitting the gym again. I know muscle has memory and know from past experience i will shape up fast as long as i don't push so hard i get hurt. That's the one peice of advice/wariness i could give anyone about an exercise program. It's a life time commitment so rushing headlong into it is self defeating and can lead to injury and the type of extreme soreness that makes people give up.
I would bet it has to do with someone's situation what a Dr says. i have a new infection and the slow retreat of my immune system isn't showing at all yet. i test positive but no viral load or drop in T cells yet. I bet if i had presented a viral load or lowered cd4 count the Dr would of said something else or focused on moderation. Over exercise can make you sick, it can wear you out and break you down. i was obcessive about it ten yrs ago and ended uo exhausted and hurt well before I was infected. I think balance and consistancy are the key to a good program. hopefully, i will be able to build up to a healthy 90 min a day of stretching, lifting and cardio 4 or 5 times a week like i did when i was exercising healthy in the past.
I never popped aminos but always used designer protein( didnt give me gas) I took an extra 50 grams of protein that way. I guess from what I have read you can stress your kidneys and liver if you start eatting a lot of lean meat/nuts/ beans then start slamming too much whey. it isnt hard to get 100 grmas of protein a day naturally. i will stay away from the stuff the stuff that adds instant strength. i forget the name it's a natturally occurring compound in meat that's used in enhergy release. they refine and sell. It added about 4 lb of lean mass to me when i took it but i had a bad muscle pull taking it and read that's a concern. Plus with the HIV i just dont want to add extra stuff that might feed the virus more than my muscles...whose to say or know?
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Dear Windycity,
I just wanted to thank you for posting that bit of information. I have been depressed this past week because of this whole HIV thing. In fact, today is my 6 month anniversary. Anyways, I read your routine and I do the same thing. I am in no means wanting to get big just toned and healthy. I am 5'9" and 143lbs. Very lean. Anyways, I take mulitvitamins every morning and night. I do a protein shake with fruit, milk, kefir milk and whey protein and I work out 4 to five days a week including 30 mins of cardio. Is this good? I mean sometimes I feel great but mostly I feel tired. Am I overdoing it? Prior to my HIV diagnosis I was going to the gym 7 days a week. Thanks.
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jango ~
thanks for the post. i can understand your depression. i think we all go through that to be sure! sometimes the hiv thing drags me down into a funk also. but as my signature says, i have hiv, hiv does not have me! as for your routine, it sounds great. you ask if that's overdoing it. i can't comment on that, as i'm not a doctor, and i wouldn't assume to give anyone advice in that regard. as with me, i can only say, only you know your limits. if i'm tired from my work week, i rest and don't hit the gym. if i'm a bit down, i try to find activities that will boost my mental health. i think mental health is equally important in battling hiv. with hiv, as with working out rest is so important. so my advice would be, if you feel tired don't push it. i sometimes get angry with myself that i'm not pushing hard enough, not pumping enough weight, etc. and to that i tell myself that this is not a race. i'm on no one's schedule but my own.
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