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Religion - HIV - GAY
      #217292 - 12/07/06 12:32 AM

Most churches preach thet homosexuality is a sin. To those of you who are church-goers, how do you deal with the negativity of churches - especially when you are both gay and HIV? I am having some trouble with this, so any thoughts would be appreciated..... :)



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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY new
      #217331 - 12/07/06 09:37 AM

ex pentecostal for 20 years, post your addy, we can talk about religion, faith, and love of higher power....

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      #217578 - 12/08/06 10:55 AM

Hey guy.....My advice: find a very accepting congregation that affirms your value as a human being. The MCC church is one of the best but there are many others now. Just look around.

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #217662 - 12/08/06 09:05 PM

I just ignore it. I figure that there are many parts of the Bible that these churches ignore. I focus on the positive items that keep me going - Love one another.......

Good luck

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #217703 - 12/08/06 11:58 PM

Thats a big question

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #217706 - 12/09/06 02:05 AM

While the negativity of church members, who choose to see themselves as more righteous than other sinners, can be irritating and discouraging, I choose to keep in mind that the Church is God's house, and my purpose of going their is for a relationship with Him, not them. While this does not eliminate the discomfort that can be felt at times from comments, looks, avoidances etc. it does help keep me centered. I have also chosen to carefully select where I go to church and how often, and have not yet felt a need to openly share my HIV status, unless I feel the issue needs to come up to benefit someone else ~ which it has not in the past 4 years of being +. Try focsing solely on how you can be of benefit to someone else, outside of your HIV status, and see if it helps generate a different athmosphere for you. We who are HIV+ are still human beings with everyday issues just like the rest of the world. HIV is NOT who we are...it is only a disease process we live with much like the diseases every other church member deals with in their own life i.e. diabetes, heart disease, cancer, MS and many many more. Step outside of your HIV and continue being YOU !! The very best to you my friend, and have a wonderful holiday season.

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218122 - 12/12/06 08:58 PM

I'm not exactly sure on the solution to this problem because I am in the exact same situation as you are in. I have learned though, that I should stick with what I have been convinced of and what I have learned (in these last two years.) (and that message was from a higher power) Unfortunately, the answer isnt what I want it to be. I'm not suppose to have same sex relations (b/c its a sin - impure and sexual immorality) I haven't done anything for two years now, because I am sticking with my religion-spirituality because its the only thing that has stuck with me . I still want to be gay but giving up eternity for something that isn't going to last for too long, just isn't enough for me. So if you are religious, do your homework (study the bible), Pray about everything. P.S. thoughts can also be prayer. Most people think that their faith is where they sit on Saturday or Sunday, but they all have it backwards. Do not be decieved. Keep Jesus First. With Love!

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY new
      #218222 - 12/13/06 04:27 PM

In one ear and out the other. If it is too bad, I leave. Shop around there are a lot of gay affirming Christian churches around. Jesus is in all of them.

I'm Episcopalian, so I have to shop around for a gay affirming church. Mine here in Pasadena, CA is All Saints and while their politics are closer to Che Gueverra than Ronald Reagan and I'm a Liberatarian, I go nonetheless and ignore the anti-globalization, market regulation silliness and listen to the beauty of the Christian message of love and peace.

Pax mobiscum et cum spiritu tuo, bro'

ScotCharles

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Carpe diem.

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218242 - 12/13/06 08:49 PM

I am heterosexual HIV married born again Christian. I know its a small consolation. But I apologize for the Christians who pay more attention to what they believe is someone elses sin instead of their own. Jesus said when asked what was the most important commandment to obey, that to love the Lord your God with all your heart all your soul and all your might AND EQUALLY love and treat your neighbor as you would want to be treated. I know my church which used to be an Assemblies of God church (yeah I know, as Anti Gay as it gets) is now away from that denomination and now a non-denominational. We are moving towards that day when everyone can worship God together and let God do the judging while we do the loving. God loves everyone equally. I for one, when I hear a fellow Christian focusing on what they are judging as others sin remind them to take the plank out their own eye. May God bless you and I know God will lead you to a place where you can find the love He wants ALL of His children to have.

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218268 - 12/14/06 01:32 AM

I am not condem you in any way. All I can say is go before God and ask him to search you and be free to tell God all you fell is troubling you. Be very honsty to ask HIM for help. He will for sure help you and you will be free from all you are going through. Read Hosea 4:6 if you read the bible. If you don't still read it and God will help you. God bless you.

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James in Ga.
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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218272 - 12/14/06 01:45 AM

My church affirmed me as a child of God, worthy of the same love as anyone else. That love transformed my heart and living for Jesus tranformed my behavior. I have a great spiritual family. I hope you find a loving church that will love you first and let the Holy Spirit tend to any changes in his time,yes?

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James in Ga.
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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218273 - 12/14/06 01:59 AM

Such an awesom posting .thanks

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218275 - 12/14/06 02:15 AM

It's been 2 years 5 mth for me as well. I believe the bible is God's word. If you want to spend eternity in heaven you can't act on carnal desire,period.Your words are encouraging. I'm praying for your strength and wisdom as well.Spread it to others for sure.

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218276 - 12/14/06 02:27 AM

I wish every gay /positive church goer could read this.So many judge churches by wether their sexuality/status is accepted rather than focusing on their relationship with Christ. Great comments

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Re: Religion - HIV - GAY
      #218277 - 12/14/06 02:30 AM

ya think????

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