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terry w. lake
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my doctor has been urging me towards...
      #1659 - 04/03/00 10:11 AM

My doctor has been urging me toward meds My virul load is 7800 and my cd4s ar 580What should I do



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      #1660 - 04/03/00 10:11 AM

Terry... You have a lot to think about and decide when it comes
to treatment. I do not know how long you have been infected with
the virus, but in my opinion, you should start some type of
treatment before further damage to your immune system is done.
Your viral load is not very high, but your Tcells are a little
low. Viral burden usually sky rockets during three to six months
after initial infection, then lowers and levels off. But after
some time, it starts to rise again. If you choose not to initiate
therapy, take extra good care of yourself. Excercise, take plenty
of vitamins, extra vitamin C (we're talking 1-2 grams a day),
Zinc has been found to be good on attacking the virus, as with
Cats Claw, St. John's Wort, and other herbal medicines. The key
is, nutrition. Take care of your body until your ready to
initiate therapy. PLEASE e-mail me if you want to talk.
JJason1@hotmail.com Take care...



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chris
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Re: my doctor has been urging me towards... new
      #1661 - 04/03/00 10:12 AM

Terry: How do you feel? I suggest you visit the following
web-site www.duesberg.com, before deciding to take the meds. As
well, are you on any of the following drugs? Heroine,alcohol,
Cocaine, ecstacy, crystal, poppers, nicotine, caffeine, speed,
special K? If you are, discontinue use immediately. All forms.
Give yourself three more months. Totally de-toxify your body of
these substances and see what happens. In addition, ensure, at
all costs, that you get eight hours of sleep a night--regularily,
and drink 8-12 glasses of water a day. Then see what happens--it
has worked for me.



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gus
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Re: my doctor has been urging me towards... new
      #1662 - 04/03/00 10:13 AM



Terry,

I have been HIV positive for 14 years and have never taken any medications, mainly
because there were none available when I first became positive. Am glad for that as it
made me have to make my body very strong to cope with the virus within, so I detoxed my
body, cut out smoking and drinking and party drugs, became very aware of diet, vitamins
and Chinese herbs. As a result, I have enjoyed (and still do) a low viral load of 5000 and a
T-cell count that has only recently dropped to 250. At this point, I am now considering
medication as I think it might help, but am certainly glad I never did it before. In addition, if
I do start the meds, I will be continuing the herbs, vitamins, meditation etc. right alongside it
to make sure it is a complete and utter winner. Good luck and don't rush into anything. Gus



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Re: my doctor has been urging me towards... new
      #1663 - 04/03/00 10:13 AM

Business must be slow at your dr's office.
with such high numbers I assume you are not having any symptoms that you can't live with.
In fact, you probably can hold down a job. You should have the luxury of time to wait for
the next drugs to come down the pipeline. Continue to monitor yourself and check any
lifestyle changes that might enhance your health.
Best of luck to you.



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mark
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Re: my doctor has been urging me towards... new
      #1664 - 04/03/00 10:13 AM


There is no doubt that medication is saving peoples lives. But if I were you and had those
numbers I would not start at this point. There is increasing debate among the HIV
specialists as to wheather it is good to start early or not. In other words they don't know
what is right.

What we do know is that these medications are toxic and have side effects. I had a cd4 of
315 and vl of 58,000 and felt pretty good when I started my hiv drugs. I have had good
results with the drugs, however I am fatigued from them so I have to take an additional
drug to counteract that. I am also suffering from the fat redistrabution problem. In case you
are not aware of this particular side effect I will describe it. Basically the fat in the arms
and legs is redistributed into your torso, underneath the abdominal wall. Although this does
not cause any health problems, with my skinny arms and legs, I now look a little like Mr.
Potato Head. I don't want you to think that everyone suffers this side effect, but a good
percentage does.

Terry, if I had to do it over again, I would have waited to start the drugs, now I feel like I
can't stop. As long as you feel okay now and your numbers do not begin plunging, wait.



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