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Gays do not choose to be gay!
#132246 - 12/26/04 07:40 AM
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Gay people are born gay and that my friends is a fact! If you want to debate this issue then KINDLY email me at padude647@aol.com Part of the increase in HIV is pure ignorance due to the simple fact that gays are forced into a closet of misery and confusion. If your loved one is gay, you must accept him or her with open arms and get over the stigma that is attached! Many gays are great people who care for others but bigotry gets in the way for a decrease in the numbers of HIV cases. Many gays are rejected who introduce their partners into their home thus frustration and break up and then more partners so dont go blaming gays for HIV spread!
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born that way just like retards are born retarded it's a birth defect
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Hey Padude,
My brother is Gay and my family has accepted him since he told us...no problems here...also, one of my close friends is gay.....I have been around it a lot through the years and I dont think of it as being different at all...I think you are GREAT!!!! I LOVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GAY- just like I love everyone in my life...no different....I agree with you that gay does not mean HIV/aids...More heteros are infected now than anyone...I am, married and I have HIV.....Perfect example!!!!!! ~Jessie~
HIV+ since 2-3-04 "While there is breath, there is hope". "HIV is what I have, not who I am".
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YOu are truly disguisting...If you have nothing decent to say then please keep your mouth shut!!!! Educate yourself please before you start shooting your mouth off about things you DONT understand!!!!! Get a grip man...we are going into a new year-2005......People have a right to be who they are regardless....It is not a choice...BUT you have the choice to be IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!
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No! Bigotry is a bith defect! You dont even understand! You so called Christians use Gods word as hate which is not right period! You Christians have yet to prove that God hates Gays! No, dont go showing or quoting the bible because the bible is twisted with man written tales. However, I do believe in the ten commandments where it says thou shall not kill! Why dont you Christians condemn killers instead of gays????
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You obviously fall into the category that you listed, retarded or just plain inbred and ignorant.
Special people have special challenges in life, and if used correctly, provide great insight and growth.
I am proud of my ability to recognize myself as a worthwhile homosexual person. If you cannot accept that we exist, and cannot cope with the blessing in life that we as gays are given, then STAY OFF THIS BULLETIN BOARD! This is for mutual support and education.
You obviously at this point have nothing to add, and need to recognize your shortcomings. (Several, not to be deliniated here). Crawl back into your ignorant bottle and stay there, until you have something positive in life to share.
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I have read what everyone is writing about GOD's Word about homosexuality. Knowing GOD's Word about that subject I do know it's also a CHOICE you will make to act upon those desires of homosexuality. (Free Will) GOD gives us the feel will to either believe or not. Will GOD love you if you act upon those actions. YES, but GOD does also what you to see the right plan for each and everyone of his children. See satin wants to change the natural plan of GOD, ever since the beginning when he fell from grace. What GOD has designed satin try's to corrupt it. We should learn that GOD wants nothing more then for us to see His Truths. An example, Let's say you have a desirer to lie, kill or even steal, but you don't do it because you CHOOSE not too. Knowing it's WRONG and not in GOD's design for us to do that. The same goes for acting upon homosexuality. GOD love us so much that He gave us His Only Son JESUS to die on a cross so we may have eternal life threw JESUS'. I know from studying the Bible and from what GOD has shown me that giving up that UNNATURAL lifestyle is the very least I can do since My Lord JESUS gave His life for mine. Think about this with an open mind and PRAY to GOD to show you if these statements are TRUTH. May GOD BLESS all who reads this and allows it to root in your heart. Grace and Peace. A Brother in Christ.
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This board is not the place for this discussion. I fight everyday for my life and the life of my partner. Frankly I don't care what anyone thinks about my sexuality. Please stop this thread or I will report it, and asked that it be removed.
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I agree you are born that way just like any imbalance someday there will be a pill to correct your homosexuality god made adam and eve not adam and steve get right with nature and what your'e doing aint natural to the norm
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I agree, I waqs married for almost 20 years but was a closet gay man, sneeking behind my wifes back. I am now divirced and have a wonderful partner for life we are both Hiv+ and are healthy. My parents just cant bring themselves to accept that I am ga. My partner was not even allowed to attend my mothers funeral with me for support. When will people learn,.
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I can only think of telling you my true feelings from my heart, regarding so-called "choosing" to be gay. In no way do I wish to attack you back. I just would like you to hear my side of this story, as a gay male. We have listened to yours, so please be considerate and offer me the same courtesy. I promise to not attack you back because that is just not me. I come from an extremely abusive family....a father who nearly beat me near death several times, a mother who told me to lie and deny it to people and who later got into drugs. I grew up angry, scared to death of a father who I so wanted to love me and a mother who I so wanted to see the good in me and take me away from that situation. Now, emotionally, at the age of 32, I am fully ENRAGED with anger. My abuse ended at the age of 18. When I turned 19, I met a man who I thought truly loved me. To make a long story short, he purposely infected me saying, "Welcome to my world and the life that I live." So, you can see that the freedom I eventually attained from my father was now taken over by a virus that tells me how to live, what I can and cannot do, etc., just like my father. I respect your opinions, but I have to tell you that I would never choose to be involved with a group of people who are so stereotyped and flamboyant. Years went by, and I went through a lonely life, with no family. That was, until I met my loving, monogamous and patient partner. We've been together for 3 years now and there isn't a length he wouldn't go for me. It's hard to find someone that understanding and willing, heterosexual, or not. We live a quiet life, like 2 regular everyday men. I'm a competitive bodybuilder and he is a teacher. We have many solutions to obstacles if they happen to show up in our relationship. For example, we don't feel it is normal to fight in our relationship. Instead we believe it is normal to not always agree on things. So, if we disagree on something, the TV is turned off, phone turned off, music off, etc. and then we lay on the bed, or sit, facing each other. One person vents his disagreement until he has entirely gotten everything out, while the other listens by making eye contact. When he is finished, then the process is reversed and the other listens with eye contact. A hug comes soon because we come to a compromise and we forget about the situation altogether. Monogamy is deeply rooted in our companionship and we both feel strongly about it. He makes me laugh, I make him laugh, I pray and am spiritual, as well as him, and his whole family accepts me as his partner. I prayed to God for the longest time to get what I have with him and after at age of 29, we had met. Our love for one another is strong and spiritual, as well as our love to help anyone unfortunate, no matter who they are. I just wish you could understand that it is not a "choice" that I woke up with in my head one morning, especially after having such a difficult past. I enjoy doing duties for the community, like teaching people with disabilities about exercise and nutrition and delivering platters and platters of free cookies/pastries to the children's hospital. Of course I wouldn't want you to condemn me because I'm gay. You would never know it from looking at my partner and I. All I ask is that you please "try" and understand. If I were to put myself in your position, I guess I would probably be wondering if homosexuality is chosen since I wouldn't have anyway of knowing about it. Anyhow, please think about what I said, even if it doesn't mean much to you and have a healthy and happy new year.
-------------------- Someday, I will be the most powerful Jedi ever!!!
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Yes, this is a place for this! I am HIV as well and am sick of people judging me!
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Once I happily called myself a "Born Again" Christian and set out to evangelize the world with the Good News, but then I met people like you and realized there is a difference between "God's Love" and "man's love." God loves unconditionally. Man love conditionally... with loads of caveats. Oh, these so-called "fundamentalist/evangelicals" love to use the phrase "Love the Sinner, not the sin" as if it were something straight out of the Bible, but you won't find it in Jesus' words, not even as a paraphrase of his words... tho it is a common practice to also twist scriptures to fit their own religiosity. I have since denouced "Religion" and it's culist zealots, and have learned the best way to proclaim God's love is to demonstrate it unconditionally and without pre-judgement (preudice). I haven't perfected this, but I'm working on it. I have also learned to accept that some so-called "Christians" want to make this country a "theocracy" ruled by men who agree with their dogma that they place in power. This is how jihad terrorism starts.
-Benny
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