|Can Testosterone replacement cause Heart...
Dec 14, 2012
Hello sir. I like to know. Can Testosterone replacement cause Heart attack in obese or slim people? Ie: depo testosterone or androgel. I understand obese people have low Testosterone. But what if it is even lower then average. Thank you!
| Response from Mr. Vergel
Good question that I get asked a lot.
Testosterone deficiency (low blood levels of testosterone) have been linked to increased cardiovascular risk. Testosterone replacement (at physiological, not bodybuilding, doses) has been shown to improve cardiovascular health.
Having said that, a small percentage of men may experience increase hemoglobin and hematocrit even with the low doses used in replacement therapy. High hematocrit can increase the viscosity of the blood and thus, increase cardiovascular risk. This problem can be managed by draining some blood every few months (therapeutic phlebotomy).
Some men with a lot of aromatase enzyme activity may convert more than normal amounts of testosterone to estradiol, which can increase water retention and blood pressure. But this problem is rare at replacement doses.
When it comes to lipids, I am pasting a section of my book: Testosterone: A Man's Guide
Protecting your Heart and Keeping Cholesterol (Lipids) in Check
There is widespread misinformation that testosterone supplementation increases the risk of heart disease. There is no evidence to support this in men younger than 65 years of age. In fact testosterone administration to middle-aged men is actually associated with decreased visceral fat, triglycerides, lower blood sugar concentrations and increased insulin sensitivity. Several studies have shown that low total and free testosterone concentrations are linked to increased intra-abdominal fat mass, risk of coronary artery disease, and type 2 diabetes mellitus. Testosterone has also been shown to increase coronary blood flow. Similarly, testosterone replacement retards the build-up of plaque in experimental models of atherosclerosis.
In 1994, Phillips and colleagues studied 55 men with angina. They found a strong correlation between very low levels of testosterone and increased severity of coronary artery disease as measured by arteriograms, suggesting that testosterone may actually have a protective effect. This is consistent with the observation that the risk for atherosclerosis increases with age in men, while testosterone levels decrease. Two other smaller studies found that the administration of testosterone decreased risk factors for coronary artery disease.
The European prospective investigation into cancer in Norfolk (EPIC- Norfolk)Prospective Population Study examined the prospective relationship between the body's own (endogenous) testosterone concentrations and mortality due to all causes, cardiovascular disease, and cancer in a nested case-control study based on 11,606 men aged 40 to 79 years surveyed in 1993 to 1997 and followed up to 2003. Among those without prevalent cancer or cardiovascular disease, 825 men who subsequently died were compared with a control group of 1489 men still alive, matched for age and date of baseline visit. Lower endogenous testosterone (the body's own) concentrations at baseline were linked to mortality due to all causes (825 deaths), cardiovascular disease (369 deaths), and cancer (304 deaths). So this study found that in men, endogenous testosterone concentrations are inversely related to mortality due to cardiovascular disease and all causes, and that low testosterone may be a predictive marker for those at high risk of cardiovascular disease.
But there is some emerging contradicting data from a much smaller study that showed that older men who have higher endogenous testosterone (without taking testosterone) may have a higher incidence of heart disease. A large U.S. multicenter study showed that older men with higher testosterone levels are more likely to have a heart attack or other cardiovascular disease in the future. The results were presented at The Endocrine Society's 92nd Annual Meeting in San Diego in June 2010. Study participants were age 65 or older and included 697 community- dwelling men who were participating in the National Institutes of Health- funded study, called the Osteoporotic Fractures in Men (MrOS). None of these men were receiving testosterone therapy, according to the study abstract.
All subjects had blood tests to determine their testosterone levels. The investigators then divided the men into quartiles, or four groups, of testosterone range to observe trends in rates of coronary heart disease events. This type of heart disease results from plaque-clogged or narrowed coronary arteries, also called atherosclerosis. A coronary heart disease event included a heart attack; unstable angina, which is chest pain usually due to atherosclerosis and which doctors consider a prelude to a heart attack; or an angioplasty or bypass surgery to clear blocked arteries.
During an average follow-up of nearly 4 years, 100 men, or about 14 percent, had a coronary disease event, in particular, heart attacks. After the researchers adjusted for other potential contributing risk factors for heart disease, such as elevated cholesterol, they found that higher total testosterone level relates to an increased risk of coronary disease. Men whose total testosterone was in the highest quartile (greater than or equal to 495 nanograms per deciliter, or ng/dL) had more than twofold the risk of coronary disease compared with men in the lowest quartile (below 308 ng/dL). So, this is contradictory data that may be concerning, but does it say anything about the cardiovascular risks of supplementing testosterone to men with testosterone deficiency?
A report published in the New England Journal of Medicine in June 2010 about a study researching the use of testosterone gel in older men showed that such study was stopped early due to a higher incidence of side effects in men treated with the gel. Participants in this trial called the Testosterone in Older Men with Mobility Limitations, or TOM, were non-institutionalized men aged 65 and older who had difficulty walking two blocks or climbing 10 steps and whose serum testosterone was 100 to 350 ng/dl (very low levels). So, these were frail older men. The goal was to recruit 252 men, but only 209 subjects had been enrolled by the time the trial, which started in 2005, was stopped on December 2010. Testosterone use had the desired effect of improving the men's muscle strength and mobility. But they also experienced a high rate of adverse effects not just cardiovascular problems but respiratory and skin problems. Unfortunately, they did not report hematocrit, estradiol and bio available testosterone. I dream of the day when a study will be done the right way to include all of those variables. Only then we can draw the right conclusions about who is more prone to side effects. Managing high hematocrit with blood donation/phlebotomy and high estradiol with anastrazole can probably eliminate some of the reported side effects in older men, but there really is only one way to find out: To have proper studies using those management strategies. To date, no study listed in clinicaltrials.gov is actually following men who are taking testosterone and who have access to phlebotomy or estrogen blockers to manage the two main side effects that may affect cardiovascular health in older men: high hematocrit and estradiol. Previous studies have shown that in general, older men have more side effects when using testosterone (polycythemia, gynecomastia, high blood pressure, prostatic hyperplasia) and more co morbid conditions. High hematocrit and estradiol increase clotting and viscosity, so it is not surprising to me that older men who use testosterone would have more cardiovascular risks if monitored poorly by their physicians. It amazes me how many older men using TRT are walking around with hematocrit over 54 and estradiol levels above 100 pg/dl without being offered phlebotomy or estrogen blockers. This is one of the main reasons I felt compelled to write this book.
Older men also require more testosterone to reach normal levels since they have more sex hormone binding globulin that attaches to testosterone and renders it useless. So, physicians should carefully monitor these patients if they decide to provide testosterone replacement. The age cut off when the risk-to-benefit ratio of testosterone changes is not known yet. There are several studies listed in the Appendix that are currently being performed to provide more answers.
So, the jury is still out. But if no complicating factors like high cholesterol, blood pressure or strong family history of heart disease are present, many doctors opt for prescribing testosterone to older men who need it to have a better quality of life. And most doctors keep an eye on hematocrit but few on estradiol. Hopefully, this will change as more doctors wake up to the risks associated with poor monitoring and management of TRT.
It is the excessively high doses of testosterone used by athletes and recreational body builders that are linked to significant decreases in the plasma concentration of HDL (high-density lipoprotein - the good cholesterol) and increases in LDL (low-density lipoprotein the bad cholesterol). Replacement doses of testosterone have been shown to have only a modest or no effect on plasma HDL in placebo-controlled trials. Testosterone supplementation has been show to decrease triglycerides, a dissolved fat that can lead to cholesterol increases and metabolic syndrome. In spite of these studies, some physicians continue to think that testosterone replacement can dramatically increase cholesterol levels. Given the state of the modern diet, all of us should have our doctor check our fasting cholesterol and triglycerides (another lipid linked with heart disease risk). If you think that you have low testosterone you may already have a problem with your lipids. The recommendations of exercise and diet (low in sugars and animal fats) apply for everybody but are especially important for men who have high LDL and high triglycerides at the time of starting testosterone replacement. Testosterone therapy can be an important part of your health regimen but don't start it thinking that it will cure high cholesterol. Sometimes high lipids are related to poor diet, sedentary lifestyle, medication side effects, and/or bad genes. Your treatment for high cholesterol and triglycerides can also include statin and fibrates drugs prescribed to you by your doctor. I would try to modify your diet and to exercise before you jump on taking these medications since they may have muscle related side effects and really do not correct the root cause of the problem, which is a metabolic abnormality that could be addressed with good adherence to life style modifications. The key word is "adherence", which seems elusive is many people who rather take a pill than watch their diet and exercise. For more on diet and exercise, refer to the chapter "Miscellaneous Health Tips to Support Healthy Testosterone."
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