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Show me published replicated real HIV isolation

Dec 29, 2016

There is no reputable published isolation of HIV . If someone had shown this and could prove it was responsible for all AIDS, they would win a NOBEL prize. Mullis who did win a NOBEL prize for the pcr test which was called the greatest advance in biochemical exploration ever, spent two years asking everyone in the field to show him a paper which proved HIV existed and was the cause of AIDS and no one could. That's when he came out and basically declared the so called science behind AIDS was the worst scam in medical history. That's when he said his test could not be used in AIDS as no gold standard for HIV had been achieved.

Response from Dr. Young

Hello,

Respectfully, you and Dr. Mullis are wrong. Just because Dr. Mullis won a Nobel doesn't by default mean that he's right about AIDS.

HIV has been indeed been isolated (I did so in the lab as a mere research fellow in 1996; so have countless other scientists around the world). Here's one early peer-reviewed research publication on the isolation of HIV in 1987 in the very reputable Journal of Medical Virology that Dr. Mullis clearly failed to read: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.1890230108/abstract.

Oh, and actually, Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier did in fact "win" the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the discovery and isolation of HIV.

HIV has also been transmitted to people (and other surrogate animals) and caused the disease we call AIDS (fulfilling Koch's outdated 19th Century postulates).

I'd suggest you review the Durban Declaration, written in 2000 :

"The evidence that AIDS is caused by HIV-1 or HIV-2 is clear-cut, exhaustive and unambiguous, meeting the highest standards of science. The data fulfill exactly the same criteria as for other viral diseases, such as polio, measles and smallpox:

Patients with acquired immune deficiency syndrome, regardless of where they live, are infected with HIV.

If not treated, most people with HIV infection show signs of AIDS within 5-10 years. HIV infection is identified in blood by detecting antibodies, gene sequences or viral isolation. These tests are as reliable as any used for detecting other virus infections.

People who receive HIV-contaminated blood or blood products develop AIDS, whereas those who receive untainted or screened blood do not6. Most children who develop AIDS are born to HIV-infected mothers. The higher the viral load in the mother, the greater the risk of the child becoming infected.

In the laboratory, HIV infects the exact type of white blood cell (CD4 lymphocytes) that becomes depleted in people with AIDS.

Drugs that block HIV replication in the test tube also reduce virus load in people and delay progression to AIDS. Where available, treatment has reduced AIDS mortality by more than 80%. Monkeys inoculated with cloned SIV DNA become infected and develop AIDS.

Further compelling data are available. HIV causes AIDS. It is unfortunate that a few vocal people continue to deny the evidence. This position will cost countless lives.

In different regions of the world, HIV/AIDS can show altered patterns of spread and symptoms. In Africa, for example, people infected with HIV are 11 times more likely to die within five years, and more than 100 times more likely than uninfected people to develop Kaposi's sarcoma, a cancer linked to yet another virus.

As with any other chronic infection, various factors have a role in determining the risk of disease. People who are malnourished, who already suffer other infections or who are older, tend to be more susceptible to the rapid development of AIDS following HIV infection. However, none of these factors weakens the scientific evidence that HIV is the sole cause of the AIDS epidemic.

In this global emergency, prevention of HIV infection must be our greatest worldwide public-health priority. The knowledge and tools to prevent infection are available. The sexual spread of HIV can be stopped by mutual monogamy, abstinence or by using condoms. Blood transmission can be prevented by screening blood products and by not reusing needles. Mother-to-child transmission can be reduced by half or more by short courses of antiviral drugs.

Limited resources and the crushing burden of poverty in many parts of the world constitute formidable challenges to the control of HIV infection. People already infected can be helped by treatment with life-saving drugs, but the high cost of these drugs puts these treatments out of reach for most of the world. It is crucial to develop new antiviral drugs that are easier to take, have fewer side effects and are much less expensive, so that millions more can benefit from them.

There are many ways of communicating the vital information on HIV/AIDS, and what works best in one country may not be appropriate in another. But to tackle the disease, everyone must first understand that HIV is the enemy. Research, not myths, will lead to the development of more effective and cheaper treatments, and, it is hoped, a vaccine. But for now, emphasis must be placed on preventing sexual transmission.

There is no end in sight to the AIDS pandemic. But, by working together, we have the power to reverse its tide. Science will one day triumph over AIDS, just as it did over smallpox. Curbing the spread of HIV will be the first step. Until then, reason, solidarity, political will and courage must be our partners."

Today, it is no more plausible or credible to assert that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, or that HIV doesn't exist, than to claim that the earth is flat or that climate change isn't happening.

Today, we have HIV-specific treatments that can restore health (or prevent it's decline), save lives, and prevent transmission to others. Anything that obfuscates these proven facts, is dangerous and anti-evidence nonsense that places millions of people's lives at risk. Doing so, in my opinion, is an act that violates basic human rights.

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